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« on: May 15, 2008, 12:39:10 am »

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2008/05/hows-randy-muel.html

How's Randy Mueller looking to you now?

Last season, amid the storm of discontent over the Dolphins 1-15 season, fans raged against Cam Cameron and Randy Mueller.

Cameron, the head coach, was clearly over his head. He was the worst head coach I have ever covered and I covered Dave Wannstedt. It is possible Cameron might have learned to be better with more experience and his play-calling was fine. But he came into the job certain he was smarter than everyone else and struggled to figure out he really wasn't.

Mueller, the general manager, was clearly not over his head. I remember him telling me toward the end of 2006 that he believed the Dolphins to be one of the top four or five franchises in the NFL and that, with just a little time and patience, things could become very, very, very good in Miami.

Mueller was afforded neither the time nor patience and was swept out by new Dolphins czar Bill Parcells even before Cameron was.

But while Cameron left a legacy of often curious and sometimes comical mistakes, Mueller leaves behind a pretty good body of work.

Think about this: Two of the three quarterbacks on the Dolphins roster today are here because of Mueller moves. He drafted John Beck. Everyone knows that. But few people recognize the fact he traded Chris Chambers to San Diego and that second-round pick is the one Parcells used to draft Chad Henne this year.

So if either Beck or Henne turn out to be Miami franchise quarterbacks, some of the credit for that has to go to Mueller.

Mueller was ripped for trading Wes Welker for a second and a seventh-round selection. I believe that trade will eventually be seen as a trade that helped both teams and perhaps the Dolphins more than the Pats.

Welker is a great addition to any team. He's a fierce competitor, a great example of work ethic, a solid leader, and when he's got Tom Brady throwing the ball, he's a supremely productive receiver. But Tom Brady doesn't play for Miami so forget what Welker did for the Patriots last year. He didn't and wouldn't have done it for Miami.

I talked to Welker at the last Super Bowl and asked him if he could have tied for the NFL lead in catches (112) for Miami as he did in New England. "No," he said. Why, I asked? "Tom Brady," he answered.

No doubt Welker blossomed in New England. But he also became a better player by being around better players.

So what did Miami get in return for Welker? Samson Satele. He started every game at center as a rookie last year. He is slotted as the starting center again this year and perhaps the next 10 years. Remember that players typically make their greatest leap in performance between their rookie and second years. I believe Satele will be outstanding in 2008.

Mueller once told me he has "Pro Bowl written all over him if he works hard." And Satele will be good regardless of what quarterback the Dolphins have, regardless of whether Miami is a running or throwing team. The point is Miami traded a player that depends on other players to be good, for one that doesn't. That is a good trade.

Remember I wrote around Super Bowl time that a long-time NFL man who often speaks with Parcells told me Parcells was complaining about the lack of talent in Miami? Parcells told that NFL man that he had only three or four players on the roster he could build with for the future.

"I talked to him a week or two ago and he was telling me he has only three or four players down there," the NFL told me a couple of days before the Super Bowl. "He believes he's got a punter [Brandon Fields], he's got a center [Samson Satele], he's got Ted Ginn, and maybe he's got a running back if Ronnie Brown gets back to being the guy he was early last year. But even Brown he's not really counting on."

So at the time, Parcells mentioned four players. Three of them -- Satele, Ginn and Fields -- were drafted by Mueller in the same draft, the one draft he got to run for the Dolphins.

I know the proverbial jury is out on Ted Ginn Jr. And I still wish the Dolphins had picked quarterback Brady Quinn.

But I believe Ginn will be a very good player in the NFL. I think he catches the ball cleanly, I think his speed is a great asset. I think he WANTS to get better. Those are foundational points for a good receiver. Yes, he has to learn to run crisp routes. Yes, he has to learn to find the open areas in a defense as well as learn his own offense better.

But those latter things will come with experience if he applies himself. He has great tools. And again, a player typically makes his greatest leap in production in his second NFL season.

So even without mentioning fullback Reagan Mauia, the Dolphins have a handful of core players that Mueller is responsible for bringing to the team. Yes, Mueller might have missed on a couple of guys such as Paul Soliai. Yes, he might have overpaid for Joey Porter.

But ultimately his one season with the Dolphins will seem a lot more productive than the three or four years that preceded him. And in hindsight, that should be viewed quite favorably.

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 08:40:40 am »

I actually liked Mueller and hoped Parcells would give him a shot.  I'm not sure Ireland is a huge upgrade there, but we'll see.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 11:45:26 pm »

But still,  You dont trade one of your best players to ya RIVALS Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 11:46:41 pm »

But still,  You dont trade one of your best players to ya RIVALS Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No but still,Mueller didn't have a Choice,He was going there anyway.....

Just to make this Clear..Welker was a restricted free agent,He got to choose where he went,The Pats offered him a contract,and the Dolphins get the right to match the offer..or work out a trade for him....
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 08:28:35 am »

To add to that -- the Pats employed the poison pill.  Miami couldn't have kept him even if they wanted to.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 12:20:12 pm »

I don't like it when people ask questions where they already know the answer.  It's not informative, and all you're doing is testing the water to see if someone will say something ridiculous.  In this example, he asks Welker if he would've had as many catches with Miami, had he been on the team.  That's just idiotic.  ...of course not.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 05:28:20 pm »

Mueller was just a victim of bad timing. When he got the position, he didn't have much to work with. I beleive that him and Cameron really didn't get along because again...Cameron thought he knew too much.

He couldn't do anything but sit at his desk under Nick Saban. Saban wouldn't even acknowledge that he was in the building.

I DO believe that he wanted to get value for Zach Thomas last year which led to some dissention and misunderstanding.

And Welker is only as good as the players around him. You could exchange Greg Camarillo for Welker and they probably would have had similiar success in NE.

I liked Mueller. I see where he was going. He basically wanted a fast team that could be explosive at all positions but he didn't have the picks or the talent. Mueller was for rebuilding the Dolphins through the draft. Cameron was delusional thinking that with what the Dolphins had that they could contend for the playoffs.

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2008, 11:23:56 am »

  I think Randy got a raw deal during his tenure here.  He was nothing more than a puppet for Saban, and then he was saddled with Cameron.  However, Mueller did do a good job of getting rid of some underperforming players, and fixing Miami's salary cap mess.  He did get a sixth round pick for a clearly declining Olindo Mare.  I don't know who else could've done that.  I think Randy is in a great situation now working with AJ Smith in San Diego, and I wish him well.

Mueller/Cameron 2007 NFL Draft Selections

1. WR Ted Ginn Jr.
2a. QB John Beck
2b. C Samson Satele
3. RB Lorenzo Booker - Traded to the Philidelphia Eagles for a 4th round pick.
4. DT Paul Soliai
6a. FB Reagan Mauia
6b. OG/C Drew Mormino - Cut due to a failed physical
7a. LB Kelvin Smith
7b. P Brandon Fields
7c. LB Abraham Wright - Waived

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2008, 11:55:19 am »

Screw Spaz Muller,  I was so pissed when he came to Miami after that mess he did in New Orleans Evil
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2008, 12:32:11 pm »

i heard randy caused some tension with badmouthing the players - you can't do that - F him....glad hes gone
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 07:44:50 pm »

this is the guy who drafted ted ginn early round one right?

get the hell outta here he's garbage

hes made some good moves

but of all the talent in round one last year

you go with ginn who could've easily dropped to mid round two.

wide recievers are not as valuable in the league right now, none were drafted in round one this season.
ginn was a waste!
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