Ginn at #9..............the worst pick of the decade?

[Defense54]

According to Pro Football Weekly he is:


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2008/06/19/pfw_calls_ginn_biggest_no_9_bu.html?cxntfid=blogs_inside_the_dolphins


Ted Ginn has been in the NFL only one season, but that isn’t stopping Pro Football Weekly columnist Dan Arkush from labeling Ginn the worst No. 9 draft choice of the past decade.

That’s saying something because Koren Robinson was taken ninth overall in 2001.

Arkush’s reasoning, albeit harsh, is sound.

Ginn was up against such remarkable candidates as Fred Taylor, Chris Claiborne, Brian Urlacher, John Henderson and Kevin Williams. There aren’t many tomato cans in Ginn’s group.

Ginn was singled out also because he isn’t Brady Quinn, and the perception exists the Dolphins totally blew it by selecting a return specialist with debatable receiver skills over a potential franchise quarterback.

He might never live that down.

Ouch...........

[StL FinFan]

I don't know how you can say that after one season.  He may very well end up being a bust, but you can't close the book after only one chapter.

[Phishfan]

I think anyone who ranks Ginn as the worst is just living off everyone's hype from draft day and didn't watch the Dolphins season. Was he a stretch, I think we can all agree on that. Was he a better pick than Quinn? I think so in the long run. Ginn was easily the best receiver on the team last year. He showed consistent hands by catching the catchable balls. I wish I could say that about anyone else on the roster.

[bsfins]

That's because the idiot from the palm beach post,didn't understand the article...or didn't read the top line....

They listed the players at each slot taken in the past 10 years......and then said who was the worst of the bunch...

from the profootball weekly article...
Candidates
2007: WR Ted Ginn Jr. / Dolphins
2006: LB Ernie Sims / Lions
2005: CB Carlos Rogers / Redskins
2004: WR Reggie Williams / Jaguars
2003: DT Kevin Williams / Vikings
2002: DT John Henderson / Jaguars
2001: WR Koren Robinson / Seahawks
2000: LB Brian Urlacher / Bears
1999: LB Chris Claiborne / Lions
1998: RB Fred Taylor / Jaguars

And the loser is … Ted Ginn Jr.

The verdict is definitely still out on Ginn, but draft experts far and wide continue to question the wisdom of his selection in last year’s draft over Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn, who eventually dropped into the Browns’ lap at the No. 22 spot. Truth be told, Ginn is victimized in this context by what must be considered a pretty solid cast of candidates. Robinson, who no doubt has had his share of baggage, was given consideration, but he had his moments during his time in Seattle, especially his second season, when he gained 1,240 yards receiving and averaged just under 16 yards a catch. Reggie Williams also was considered based on his mediocre track record in his first three years with the Jags, but it appears the light might have finally gone on for him last season.

[MaineDolFan]

I'm not sold Ginn is the worst of this list, honestly.  There are some decent players on that list and some vastly over-rated ones as well.

[Sunstroke]

Was he a better pick than Quinn? I think so in the long run.

I'm curious what makes you think this, when you haven't even seen Quinn under an NFL center yet?

I'm mainly curious because I disagree completely, but I am interested in hearing "why" you think that.

I don't think he's the worst pick of the decade, but I do think he was a bad draft pick for the Dolphins.

[Dave Gray]

Ginn may very well be a bust, but who knows.

Had we taken any player, they would've been graded the same, I bet.  Most rookie receivers don't come light it up, and it appears that the #9 slot has been pretty good to teams.  We just don't have enough of a sample set to make a decision yet.

[Phishfan]

I'm curious what makes you think this, when you haven't even seen Quinn under an NFL center yet?

I'm mainly curious because I disagree completely, but I am interested in hearing "why" you think that.

I don't think he's the worst pick of the decade, but I do think he was a bad draft pick for the Dolphins.

I always though Quinn would be a bust and still feel that way, especially sicne we have only seen him under center for 8 passes so far. I could be wrong, but I don't see him winning the job in Cleveland or being overly successful anywhere. If the Dolphins had selected Quinn at 9, I definitely would have no disagreement with him being the worst pick in slot. A QB taken at 9 absolutely has to be a perennial pro bowler and Quinn will enver make it there IMO. Only time will tell though.

[Sunstroke]

I always though Quinn would be a bust and still feel that way, especially sicne we have only seen him under center for 8 passes so far. I could be wrong, but I don't see him winning the job in Cleveland or being overly successful anywhere. If the Dolphins had selected Quinn at 9, I definitely would have no disagreement with him being the worst pick in slot. A QB taken at 9 absolutely has to be a perennial pro bowler and Quinn will enver make it there IMO. Only time will tell though.

A few thoughts...

* If every QB drafted in the top-10 of round one had to be a perennial pro bowler, the pro bowl would feature 20 QBs every season. Requiring a #9 pick to be a perennial pro bowler, regardless of what position he plays, is asking too much.

* If you take a WR in the top-10, rather than a position that could be considered an anchor (QB, DE, OT), he DAMNED WELL better be a difference maker. A TO, a Larry Fitzgerald, a Braylon Edwards. Do you reeeeeally ever see Ginn even approaching that talent level? If your answer is anything other than "no chance," then we'll have to disagree on that one as well. Ginn has the potential to be a decent slot receiver and a very good kick returner, but those positions are ones you take later in the draft. Not in the top-10.

* Two reasons that Quinn didn't get under center last season, and none of them have ANYTHING to do with his talent. First one is the nature of rookie QBs...they just don't start in year one very often. Second reason is that he has a pro bowl QB in front of him already.

[Thundergod]

^^^

End of discussion.   

[Dphins4me]

Ginn has the potential to be a decent slot receiver and a very good kick returner, but those positions are ones you take later in the draft. Not in the top-10.

  Who would have thought Steve Smith would have turned into the Wr. he is?  Just because Ginn is not 6-2 & 220Lbs does not mean he cannot be a No. 1 Wr.

People judge Ginn because he was more known for his KR skills than his Wr skills.  Which is unfair.  I was encouraged with his catching ability last year and a Wr that can catch in Miami is rare.

[DZA]

I know one thing, Ginn is a better receiver than Derek Hagan who was suppose to easily succeed Chris chambers 

[simeon]

I do believe Miami screwed up by drafting Ginn, and I was extremely happy Quinn did not end up here either. Let's remember it was Cam Cameron who drafted Ginn and his family, I can't think of one smart move Cameron made as their head coach. But no matter what Ginn is part of this team, I have read many articles where he is working really hard on running routes at full speed. I agree with another post how can you say Ginn was a really bad draft choice based on one year. I am willing to give Ginn the chance to show us he has worked hard, and all that hard work will pay off big for Miami.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Ginn has the potential to be a decent slot receiver and a very good kick returner, but those positions are ones you take later in the draft. Not in the top-10.

QFT

A team coming off a 6-10 season takes a kick returner in the first round over a potential franchise QB??  WTF??

[Defense54]

QFT

A team coming off a 6-10 season takes a kick returner in the first round over a potential franchise QB??  WTF??

You can say whatever you want to about Cam Cameron & Co...........but THAT is the # 1 reason why he was not given a second season. It does not matter if Ginn becomes the next Jerry Rice while Quinn becomes the next Brian Leaf. The fact is you just DON"T take chances like that in your first NFL draft. It was as irresponsible as much as it was disheartening to every Fan who wanted someone and something to believe in.  Not his fault that he was picked #9. Unfortunately , Ginn will have to deal with that for some time to come.