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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2008, 04:00:56 pm »

A shotgun shell is around 17 cents and can create some real art if aimed properly!!!!!  Wink

Always good to see ya up here, AZ... I like the fiscal responsibility of the cheaper shell, but we'd then have to pay to clean up the wall, which will eat more than the 3 cents saved. Wink

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2008, 04:05:10 pm »

Always good to see ya up here, AZ... I like the fiscal responsibility of the cheaper shell, but we'd then have to pay to clean up the wall, which will eat more than the 3 cents saved. Wink



Ahhhh...good point. You are a wise man my friend!!!!


Although I am still (mostly) against execution, I wouldn't be against shooting their stuff off.

Just have a doctor on hand to cauterize the wound.

Sit the guy on the edge of a chair.  Place a Smith & Wesson 4506 under his sack and slightly angled up towards his chin.  Have him lean back.

Pull the trigger.

He won't be raping anyone again.

Although I am not necessarily against execution....I honestly believe this would be a proper form of punishment and I am willing to bet we would see a massive reduction in child molestation if we publicly televised these events!!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2008, 04:05:18 pm »

Always good to see ya up here, AZ... I like the fiscal responsibility of the cheaper shell, but we'd then have to pay to clean up the wall, which will eat more than the 3 cents saved. Wink


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AZ said it would create art, why would you clean up an art piece ?
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2008, 04:15:00 pm »

I don't think that the death penalty is a deterrent, especially for compulsion like child molesting.

Who thinks, "Well, it's worth raping children for the risk of life in prison, but not for the risk of execution."

If someone is raping children, it goes well beyond a weighted decision of consequences.
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2008, 04:20:12 pm »

I don't think that the death penalty is a deterrent, especially for compulsion like child molesting.

Who thinks, "Well, it's worth raping children for the risk of life in prison, but not for the risk of execution."

If someone is raping children, it goes well beyond a weighted decision of consequences.

I agree...but surely you can see how it would limit repeat offenders. Wink

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2008, 04:59:00 pm »

Yeah, it's hard to argue that.
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2008, 05:09:19 pm »

Allow these convicted felons to be the subjects of needed NASA experimentation.
Like if we need to shoot a person into space, or mix monkey genes with humans,
or study the prolonged effects of battery acid to live scrotum.
You relieve the prisons & benefit scientific study at the same time, a perfect marriage.
Plus forced organ donations
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2008, 05:21:25 pm »

Allow these convicted felons to be the subjects of needed NASA experimentation.
Like if we need to shoot a person into space, or mix monkey genes with humans,
or study the prolonged effects of battery acid to live scrotum.
You relieve the prisons & benefit scientific study at the same time, a perfect marriage.
Plus forced organ donations

I'm really digging TEK's outside the box approach to this issue. It got me thinking about what other uses we could find for the rapists. I mean, there's only so much medical research to go around, and there are a lot of sick predator-types. So, if we build up a surplus of rapists, we could use them...

* To fill potholes on US highways
* As mortar for the levies in New Orleans
* Minefield clearers
* Lay 3 or 4 of them end to end for use as speedbumps in mall parking lots
* Training dummies for police dogs
* Agricultural fertilizer

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2008, 08:29:18 pm »

Hey Run I am curious is there any data to back up it cost more to excute a hardened criminal over locking them up for life, providing them with three square males, an excercise yard, tv and etc ?

They did a study years ago in California that showed it was costing well over a million dollars just to get someone on to death row. Add in all the appeals and stays, etc, and they will have served the better part of a 25 to life sentence anyway. It is cheaper overall just to save the added court costs and sentence them to life or another long sentece than to go for the death penalty and start triggering the automatic appeals proccess that comes after the conviction.
I can see their point. While no one likes to see crimes against children, we have to draw a line somewhere, and the standard for qualifiying for the the death penalty was and should that another human being lost their life. While as heinous as a the rape of a child is, it is a lesser crime than murder, and to give someone the punishment befitting a murder for a lesser crime can be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2008, 12:24:34 am »

Execution is still allowed for treason, but not the rape of a child?  Hell, even Obama disagrees with this ruling: (link).

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On March 2, 1998, an 8-year-old girl was raped in Harvey, Louisiana, across the river from New Orleans. At the trial of Patrick Kennedy, five years later, a jury credited the state's version of the facts--that the little girl was awakened early in the morning to find her 300-pound stepfather on top of her, undressing her, with his hand over her mouth to keep her quiet before forcing himself inside her, causing internal injuries and heavy bleeding. The jury heard that for the initial eighteen months after the rape, the girl had insisted that she was raped by two teenage boys outside her house; they heard that she did not assert that her stepfather had raped her until after she was removed from her mother's care, placed in foster care and told that her stepfather was the person responsible.

They heard that, following the rape, Patrick Kennedy called his place of work to tell them that he would not be coming in because his little girl had "become a lady" and then called a cleaning company to have blood removed from his carpets, all before calling 911 to report that his stepdaughter had been raped and requesting an ambulance.

At the penalty-phase of the trial, the jury heard Kennedy's goddaughter testify that she had been raped by him twenty years earlier when she was 8 or 9 years old...
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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2008, 01:37:20 am »

Execution is still allowed for treason, but not the rape of a child?  Hell, even Obama disagrees with this ruling: (link).


Of course he is, he is trying to get elected, take it with a grain of salt. Treason usually leads to the deaths of others.  Based on our system of law, and the cruel and unusual punishment doctrine, you make the punishment fit the crime, and taking a life for anything less than the murder of another human being is excessive.
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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2008, 07:36:56 am »

Of course he is, he is trying to get elected, take it with a grain of salt.
Damn, I thought he was different.  Where's the "change"?
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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2008, 09:06:10 am »

a the rape of a child is, it is a lesser crime than murder,

Some people disagree this argument though. They feel rapists, especially child rapists, are the lowest of socieaty and this is the lowest of crimes. Granted the victim is not dead, but they are forced to live their lives with an emotional scar that can never be removed.
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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2008, 09:48:28 am »

Some people disagree this argument though. They feel rapists, especially child rapists, are the lowest of socieaty and this is the lowest of crimes. Granted the victim is not dead, but they are forced to live their lives with an emotional scar that can never be removed.

I was just taking the emotional aspect out and just weighing the crimes against each other, and while rape and murder are both heinous crimes, murder comes out on top and should have the harshest punitive actions leveled against its perpetrators.
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« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2008, 10:53:32 am »

I think that if a person does anything that is bad enough they should be killed.
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