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« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2008, 03:10:16 pm »

how many times is fat tuna going to resurrect "his guys"? could Bledsoe be coming back too?
to be fair, glenn would be a good mentor, Id have no problem with him if hes not too expensive
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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2008, 04:28:55 pm »

I don't see WR as a position where a "mentor" makes a huge difference. If Glenn comes here, it'll be to keep opposing defenses honest... or at least a bit more honest... (except for the two time we play the Patsies, of course, can't make them honest in any way shape or form).
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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2008, 09:48:27 pm »

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-newglenn072908,0,964967.story

Dolphins coach on Terry Glenn: We're turning over every rock to improve roster

By Omar Kelly
Sun-Sentinel.com


3:13 PM EDT, July 30, 2008

DAVIE - With the passing game stagnant, the Dolphins acknowledged it makes sense to consider adding veteran receiver Terry Glenn to help bolster its inexperienced receiving corps.

Even though coach Tony Sparano categorized reports that the Dolphins are pursuing Glenn as "hypothetical," he admitted that the front office is turning over "every rock" to improve the roster.

"I'm sure it makes sense that you'd be interested. We know the guy. We know him. We've coached him," Sparano said of Glenn, who was drafted by Dolphins vice president of football operations Bill Parcells in 1996 while with New England. "God, Bill's coached him for years. I've had him for four or five years down [in Dallas]. So I know the guy."

However, Sparano quickly added he doesn't know much about Glenn "now,' referring to his health and how much the 34-year-old has left in his knees.

Glenn played just one game last season for the Cowboys before undergoing two surgeries on his right knee. He refused to sign an injury waiver and was released by Dallas last week.

If the Dolphins decide to add him to the training camp roster he must pass a physical, and that's not a given.

"The thing that I do know is I have two people upstairs that do their due diligence on any player out there. Any player," Sparano said. "I'm sure that Terry Glenn or anybody else would be treated the same that way."

Glenn has 44 career touchdowns and four 1,000 yard-seasons, including 2006 when he was coached by Parcells, who used to tease Glenn by calling him, 'she,' early in his career.

Sparano admitted Wednesday that he likes to have veteran players, which he referred to as "torch carriers," at each position to mentor the inexperienced ones.

The Dolphins most seasoned receiver is Ernest Wilford, who entering his fifth season has led the Jaguars in touchdowns once, and receptions once.

Following Wednesday's morning practice Sparano didn't seem too concerned about the Dolphins passing game. He pointed out that on every team he's ever been part of the defense has been ahead of the offense at this stage of training camp.

According to Sparano, he likes what he's been seeing from the passing game during 7-on-7 drills, when it's primarily receivers and tight ends running routes against their defenders one-on-one.

"In the 7-on-7 I see execution. I see good crispness out of our pass game. When we get to team sometimes maybe that isn't as crisp as it should be," Sparano said. "Sooner or later it'll start to slow down. Hopefully sooner than later."


DONALD THOMAS EXCELLING

Rookie offensive lineman Donald Thomas is going on his third day as the starting right guard, and he's beginning to excel in the role. Trey Darilek, the player Thomas replaced, is working as a tackle, which is one of the Dolphins' thinnest positions.

"He moved people and played physical," Sparano said of Thomas, a former walk-on at Connecticut who was selected in the sixth round. "There will be some other guys who get some turns in a few other spots."


INJURY REPORT

Tight ends Justin Peelle (knee) and Aaron Halterman (sore back) were limited during Wednesday morning's practice session….

Rookie offensive tackle Daren Heerspink injured his knee during Tuesday's practice and was held out of the morning session….

Cornerback Michael Lehan (ankle) continued to work on the side, but is doing more and more everyday….

Wednesday's afternoon practice has been moved inside the bubble because of thunderstorms, so it's closed to the public.


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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2008, 12:41:59 am »

http://www.miamiherald.com/1190/story/623876.html

Dolphins signing Glenn would make no sense

BY ARMANDO SALGUERO
Miami Herald


Terry Glenn is not the answer unless, of course, the question is which wide receiver can the Dolphins add that might not survive training camp because his right knee probably requires microfracture surgery after it was surgically repaired twice last season, causing him to miss all but four regular-season snaps.

Glenn is not the answer unless the Dolphins are willing to admit they failed to properly address the receiver corps in the offseason and now are trying to stop the bleeding by reaching for a Band-Aid.

Glenn is not the answer unless the Dolphins have lost patience with their young receivers even before the first preseason game Aug. 9.


CAN'T CATCH ON

It is not breaking news that Miami's receivers have struggled the first week of this training camp.

In case you missed it, that is somebody named David Kircus wearing No. 85, not Mark Duper. That's Greg Camarillo sporting No. 83, not Mark Clayton.

But the Dolphins knew, or should have known, what they had at the receiver position before training camp opened rather than having it dawn on them as August looms.

The team went through six months of offseason workouts with this group and didn't make a move while such folks as Houston's André Davis and, yes, Randy Moss were unrestricted free agents looking for new contracts.

The Dolphins didn't move on those players in the offseason because Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland had a certain amount confidence in the guys they picked.

So now, one week into training camp, that confidence is shattered?

For the record, the Dolphins are not admitting they have any legitimate interest in Glenn. Good thing, because it would be kind of embarrassing if they did.

But if this team eventually does sign the 34-year-old Dallas Cowboys discard, that move should send a chilling message to the current crop of receivers -- and to you, the fans.

The Dolphins would paint it as a move with no risk and plenty of potential reward.

After all, the team would argue, what if Glenn is a hit? What if he can regain the magic he had those four seasons, including 2006, when he gained more than 1,000 yards?

And what if we all win the lottery Saturday?

''The nature of his injury is one that it can go in the next step,'' Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said of Glenn this offseason. ``That's too big a risk for our team to take, and I don't think any team will take.''

If the Dolphins take the risk, they prove themselves truly desperate and shortsighted -- and, worst of all, double-minded.

Nat Moore, who knows something about being a good receiver, was at Dolphins camp Wednesday, and he didn't seem too concerned about Miami's current pass-catchers.

It has been his experience that defenders generally are ahead of receivers at this point in training camp, and eventually the scales balance. It also is Moore's experience that receivers take a while to become good players.

Moss, Glenn and other receivers who reached stardom their first seasons are rare. It takes a year or two and plenty of practice and experience to convert a young receiver into a difference-maker.

And although there is no guarantee Ted Ginn Jr. or any of Miami's young receivers will make the transition, they deserve the opportunity and the time to make the attempt.


LOOKING LONG-TERM

If Derek Hagan is to blossom this year, he needs repetitions in practice, snaps in games and experience. In that regard, Hagan is like almost all the other Miami receivers.

Adding Glenn now would only retard the growth of those receivers. Sure, Glenn might give the receivers an experienced mentor, someone to teach them the intricacies of the game.

But isn't that what an assistant coach is supposed to do?

This team set a precedent in the offseason. With the exception of Jason Ferguson, the Dolphins added players in their football prime. They added players who would be part of tomorrow.

Now they are thinking of adding a guy who mostly is about yesterday.

That is holding to one philosophy in the spring and changing to another in the fall.

Adding Glenn would make sense if the Dolphins were playoff contenders. It would make sense if the team already had game knowledge that the current receivers on the roster aren't NFL-caliber.

Neither is the case.

And so neither would the addition make sense.

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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2008, 12:50:51 am »

1. Ginn.....2. Wilford.....3. Hagan....4. Bess.....5. Camerelio....6. Foster

probably forgetting someone but I digress....NO ROOM FOR YOU GLENN!!!
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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2008, 01:05:06 am »

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdolspec31sbjul31,0,6620670.story

Terry Glenn talk has Dolphins wideouts excited

By Harvey Fialkov
South Florida Sun-Sentinel


July 31, 2008

DAVIE - The Karate Kid had Mr. Miyagi. Dolphins third-year receiver Derek Hagan had Pro Bowl receivers Chris Chambers and Marty Booker. But who do Ted Ginn Jr. and the rest of the current Dolphins kiddie receiver corps have to learn the nuances of route running from, other than their position coach?

Terry Glenn, anyone? After all, Ginn and Glenn, the former Cowboys receiver, are cut from the same speedy cloth, both 5-foot-11 Ohio natives who starred at Ohio State — albeit a decade apart — both top-10 draft picks who have ties to Dolphins vice president of football operations Bill Parcells and coach Tony Sparano.

No wonder Sparano said Wednesday that it would "make sense" to consider signing Glenn, despite being 34 and coming off two surgeries on his right knee.

Parcells and Co. are firm believers in the mentor system. Glenn, a Pro Bowl selection in 1999, told the Dallas Morning News that the interest is mutual, but his agent is talking to several teams.

"You'd like to have a veteran player at every position, someone who may be a bit of a torch carrier, who the young guys can learn from," said Sparano, who mentioned Hagan and fourth-year receiver Ernest Wilford as potential mentors.

"I'm sure it makes sense because we know [Glenn]. Bill's coached him for years. I've had him, so I know the guy. But I don't know about him right now. I left there in January."

Sparano does know that of the 10 receivers in camp — including five undrafted rookies — only Wilford has played for more than three seasons, and he's the only one with more than three career touchdown catches (14).

That said, Wilford led the Jaguars in receptions in just one season and touchdowns in another, while Glenn has had 44 career touchdowns and four 1,000-yard seasons, including back to back in 2005 and '06 under Parcells.

"I come out every day, practice hard, finish every play. I'll continue to do that and if that rubs off on a young guy, I've accomplished my goal," Wilford said. "When I was at Jacksonville I had Jimmy Smith, a quiet leader who ran hard every play.

"Every time I watch [Glenn] on film, he's always open. He's a guy I could definitely learn from if he decides to come here."

And although Hagan has been the best receiver this summer, in the fall and winter he has a history of inconsistent hands. However, cornerback André Goodman has joined the Hagan fan club because his work ethic has gone up "10 notches," and Sparano said a rookie such as Davone Bess can't help but learn from watching Hagan "make his release."

Although Ginn steadily improved during his rookie season last year by making 26 of his 34 catches in the final seven games, he said he'd love to absorb Glenn's knowledge firsthand.

"It's nothing different than having a second coach," Ginn said. "I watched film when I was back in Ohio State, seeing the things he did when I was coming back to being a receiver. … A lot of people have compared me to him.

"I don't think it's a bad idea."

Although Sparano acknowledged that the defense is "always" ahead of the offense this early and that shuffling in three quarterbacks as well as juggling the offensive line hasn't helped the receivers appear sharp, he couldn't help but notice far too many dropped passes.

"Some days you go out there and this thing is like a rain barrel, catching a million [passes], and at the same time, some days it could be like the top of a needle, you won't catch many of them," Sparano said.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a sure-handed veteran receiver show his fledgling protégés the art of creating separation?

"T.G. is a true veteran. You want to groom the guys lower than you because you're on your way out," said nose tackle Jason Ferguson, 33, who played with Glenn at Dallas the last three seasons and would no longer be the Dolphins' oldest player.

"When guys see how hard he works, how he practices. … He's always going to be a leader. It's pretty easy for him because he's always open."

Case closed.

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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2008, 01:08:20 am »

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2008/07/30/0730dolphins.html

Dolphins contemplate signing receiver Terry Glenn

By EDGAR THOMPSON
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer


Wednesday, July 30, 2008

DAVIE — Veteran wide receiver Terry Glenn had just popped up on the radar of Dolphins safety Keith Davis.

So, Davis, who played with Glenn in Dallas under Bill Parcells, figured he'd let his former coach know - just in case.

"You know T.G. is on the market?" Davis told Parcells.

"I'm two steps ahead of you," Parcells, the Dolphins new head of football operations, shot back during a practice this week.

Following the team's Wednesday night session during two-a-days, linebacker Channing Crowder relayed the story told to him by Davis.

Glenn, after all, was a hot topic in Davie a day after a Texas newspaper report, citing two unnamed sources, said a deal between Glenn and the Dolphins would happen in the next few days.

But whether the next step taken by Parcells and the Dolphins lands Glenn in South Florida remains to be seen.

Glenn, 34, wouldn't seem to fit in with the Dolphins' youth movement under the Parcells-led regime.

But Glenn might be a good match for a team that lacks experience and production at wide receiver.

"C,'mon, c'mon, if he's coming," said nose guard Jason Ferguson, Glenn's teammate the past three seasons in Dallas. "I'm definitely anxiously waiting to see him. He isn't answering my texts. I guess that means, 'Right now, I'm taking care of business.''"

But some wonder whether Glenn can take care of business if he gets back on the field. He had two knee surgeries last year that limited him to one regular-season game and four plays.

Glenn, who caught two passes for 30 yards in the Cowboys' divisional playoff loss to the New York Giants, was scheduled to make a base salary of $1.74 million this season in Dallas. But the two sides went back and forth about the terms of Glenn's deal, and the Cowboys eventually decided to release him.

When healthy, Glenn has been an elite NFL receiver as recently as 2006, when he had his second straight 1,000-yard season for the Cowboys. In 2005, Glenn posted a career-highs in yards per catch (18.3) and touchdowns (seven).

An assistant coach on those Dallas teams, Dolphins head coach Tony Sparano said he's not surprised the team might be interested in Glenn. But that doesn't mean the addition of Glenn is a slam-dunk.

"I'm sure it makes sense because we know the guy," Sparano said. "Bill's coached him for years. I've had him, so I know the guy.

"But I don't know about him right now. I left there in January. I don't know what went on one way or the other."

If the team signed Glenn, he'd be the oldest player on the roster and one of only five position players older than 30. He'd add veteran leadership to an unproven group of receivers that has been inconsistent during training camp. The Dolphins suffered as many as 10 drops during three practices on Tuesday and Wednesday.

"Any time you have a veteran everybody can learn from them," Dolphins first-year receiver Ernest Wilford said. "We're still young. We're early in the process. We're eager to learn and we're out here competing every play, every day."

Wilford, 29, is the oldest and most productive of the Dolphins receivers. But he's only played four NFL seasons, but his 141 catches for Jacksonville are more than any Miami wideout.

Wilford's 681 receiving yards in 2005 for the Jaguars also is highest single-season total by a current Dolphins' receiver. Glenn has 593 receptions and four 1,000-yard seasons.

"He's one of the best players I've seen play," Ferguson said. "Terry Glenn is guy who's going to come in here and make an instant impact."

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2008, 01:46:17 am »

whoever becomes the qb, is going to need all the help he can get. the running game and ol can become pretty damn good this season if they have at least some receivers to open up the offense a little. glenn, if he's healthy, would be a great addition for this team.

I scanned through this thread, and came across this. I agree with this opinion whole heartedly. One year contract, and next year, we draft a stud receiver and/or pick up a younger free agent.
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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2008, 08:47:05 am »

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/miami-dolphins/story/624022.html

Glenn's arrival hinges on knee

BY JEFF DARLINGTON
Miami Herald


His arrival is still possible. Maybe even probable.

But if former Cowboys wide receiver Terry Glenn is going to rejoin his old coaches in Miami sometime soon, he is going to first need to prove his surgically repaired knee has the power of old as opposed to being, well, just plain old.

''I've had him for four or five years down there in Dallas, so I know the guy,'' said Dolphins coach Tony Sparano, previously the assistant head coach for the Cowboys. ``But I don't know about him right now.''

What Sparano means, you see, is that Glenn has been forced to endure a considerably rigorous rehabilitation since those not-so-long-ago days when he starred in that same offensive system in Dallas. He once was a major threat. But is he now?

At this point, the Dolphins remain very interested in signing Glenn -- interested enough that they could sign him at any point this week or next. But there still is a strong concern within the organization about Glenn's knee.

There is a belief that Glenn might not be able to fully participate right away in training camp as a result of lingering effects from his rehabilitation, which could also hinder his ability to pass a mandatory physical.


FUTURE SURGERY?

Although Glenn, 34, was able to return for the final two games of last season, his long-term prognosis might not be as optimistic. Doctors reportedly told Glenn last season that he eventually would require microfracture surgery, but they also told him it would be strong enough to still play on.

Nonetheless, those obvious concerns weren't enough to sway the opinion of Dolphins nose guard Jason Ferguson, who watched Glenn's rehabilitation firsthand last year in Dallas when the two were teammates.

''Would I love it? Yeah!'' Ferguson said. ``Why wouldn't I say that? That's one of the best receivers we had in Dallas. He's one of the best receivers I've seen play. He's a guy that would make an instant impact.''

That potential impact, even with a questionable knee, might still be enough to cause the Dolphins to sign Glenn to an incentive-based deal if he is healthy enough to pass his physical. The team is in solid shape with the salary cap, and it could also use some veteran leadership within a wide receiver corps that is laden with youth.

Even Ted Ginn Jr., who would ultimately be giving up repetitions to the veteran, seemed completely on board with the idea of Glenn joining the group.

''It would be great,'' Ginn said. ``Terry Glenn can come in here and give us points about different things. He's been in this league for a very long time, so it would be great to have him come in here.''

With the support of everyone from the wide receivers to the quarterbacks to Glenn's former teammates, the receiver's potential arrival isn't likely to come with any distractions. Instead, those already in Miami seem more infatuated with the idea of adding a player that totaled 1,047 yards in 2006 during his last healthy season.


KNOW YOUR SUBJECT

But as Sparano noted Wednesday morning, those are decisions that must be made by general manager Jeff Ireland and executive vice president of football operations Bill Parcells.

''The thing that I do know, I have two people upstairs that do their due diligence on any player out there,'' Sparano said. ``So I'm sure that Terry Glenn, or anybody else, would be treated the same that way. Jeff and Bill will do their due diligence that way. They'll turn over every stone one way or the other to try to make this football team better.''

By all means, it doesn't seem as if Parcells or Ireland will need to look too deeply into Glenn's past given his relationship with Parcells, who played in New England and Dallas under him.

Instead, Parcells and Ireland need to decide whether his knee can handle the stress of another season. Such confidence would likely be enough to spark a deal that has seemed inevitable since Glenn's release from Dallas last week.

''I'm sure it makes sense that you'd be interested because we know the guy,'' Sparano said. ``I mean, we know him. We've coached him. God, Bill has coached him for years.''

And if his knee checks out, Glenn likely will be back again for another one.

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