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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2008, 04:11:37 am »

Brian, I read in one of the articles(somewhere) that because of Jay Feely's kickoffs, Miami lost 80 yards of field position in JUST ONE of the games last year.....Feely is really bad on kickoffs, which puts the defense in a tough position to start a drive....

80 yards in one game? I doubt that. I follow advanced tracking stats for kickers and Miami have been doing poorly - both in distance and in coverage - but 80 yards in one game off the kicker alone is wacked out.

That said, it has been widely reported, and confirmed by Feely, that he was asked to pooch kick a lot last year, simply because Cam didn't trust the special teams coverage (unstandably, since it was HORRIBLE). On the few live practice blogs where they have talked about kickoffs, Feely consistently kicked a lot deeper than Carpenter (10-15 yards deeper), but with less hang-time. Both things are important, so it's hard to really say what's better without the exact details.

Still, you have to wonder about this move... The thought of having at least one position where we had one of the top guys in the league, a solid, stable, DEPENDABLE guy... well, that's worth a lot in my opinion, even when we're not a threat to make the playoffs.

Like everyone else, I really hope Carpenter proves to be great. I have nothing against him, just like I have nothing against Feely. I just don't think the RISK generated by the move is worth the potential REWARD.
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2008, 07:55:07 am »

Apparently Feely had some parting shots against the Parcells regime.  He doesn't understand that this move was a business decision.... get younger and clear cap space. 

http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/columnists/story/639330.html


Its not just Feely.  It has been a long string of moves, starting with Jeff Ireland, and continues.  Seems like Parcells doesn't want anyone in his organization that isn't either his friend or his signee or his draft pick.

If that's the case, then what are Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown still doing here as RBs??  And why are Yeremiah Bell and Jason Allen starting safeties?? 

I never liked Jay Feely's attitude.  Kickers are like children.... they should be seen and not heard.
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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2008, 11:17:41 am »

80 yards in one game? I doubt that. I follow advanced tracking stats for kickers and Miami have been doing poorly - both in distance and in coverage - but 80 yards in one game off the kicker alone is wacked out.

I cannot stress enough the focus the Dolphins are now putting on not losing hidden yardage in games. Last season, for example, special teams assistant Keith Armstrong bemoaned the fact that in one game alone, Feely's low and short kickoffs cost the Dolphins 80 yards of field position. Armstrong would not say what game that was, but the statistic was startling.

  This is from the 2nd article of this thread on page 1...read it  Wink......I do not have any idea why you would think I would make something like this up. Cheesy
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2008, 12:15:13 pm »

Apparently Feely had some parting shots against the Parcells regime.  He doesn't understand that this move was a business decision.... get younger and clear cap space. 

http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/columnists/story/639330.html


If that's the case, then what are Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown still doing here as RBs??  And why are Yeremiah Bell and Jason Allen starting safeties?? 

I never liked Jay Feely's attitude.  Kickers are like children.... they should be seen and not heard.

  Feely is pretty much coming off as petty and childish.  He needs to grow up, and move on.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2008, 12:53:49 pm »

  Feely is pretty much coming off as petty and childish.  He needs to grow up, and move on.
You and Tommy nailed it.....Feely needs to shut-up and hit the road!!!  I am glad Parcells/Ireland/Coach Sparano canned his whiny ass!!!!

BTW...GREAT CALL Dolfan619....you said Dan Carpenter would be Miami's new starting kicker a long time ago!!
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2008, 01:16:52 pm »

BTW...GREAT CALL Dolfan619....you said Dan Carpenter would be Miami's new starting kicker a long time ago!!

  Once Bill Parcells came in, Jay Feely's days were numbered.  Dan Carpenter's performance just made the desicion to release Jay Feely a whole lot easier.
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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2008, 05:29:39 pm »

For those who say kickers should be seen and not heard... you guys are idiots. Sorry, but that's just nuts. If you want to set a standard for a team, fine, set it for the team. But to have one set of standards for linemen, one for cornerbacks, one for quarterbacks and another for kickers, that's just stupid and really bad for morale.
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2008, 05:53:38 pm »

For those who say kickers should be seen and not heard... you guys are idiots. Sorry, but that's just nuts.

You must of been a kicker Cheesy.....I don't mind being an idiot  Wink  Lots of people think that way about kickers ( Peyton Manning,  Bill Parcells Etc).....Did you happen to read that article about Jay Feely costing Miami 80 yards of field position in one game?  Thats a crazy stat!!!
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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2008, 05:56:54 pm »

I agree with fyo.  Why should kickers not be allowed to have an opinion?  They are part of the team, too.  Maybe Jay Feely did cost a lot of field position, but that has not been the subject of conversation on this thread.
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2008, 06:18:48 pm »

You must of been a kicker Cheesy.....

CB/WR. I just don't prescribe to the theory of some players being less part of the team than others. That's primitive, idiotic crap.
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2008, 07:10:33 pm »

  I don't mind a player giving his opinion on occasion.  If John Denney wanted to chime in his .02 cents about the quarterback situation, I wouldn't mind.  My problem is when players talk too much, and can't shut up.  That's what Feely was and still is.  Feely's problem is that he's too open and honest and he'll let things fly out of his mouth, that really should be kept in house.  I've brought this up before, but I'll bring it up again.  When Ricky Williams was reinstated, Feely opened up and blasted Ricky about how he didn't trust him, and didn't want him as a teammate.

  A lot of people on these boards ripped Feely to shreds over those comments.  Not that I blame the sentiment at that time considering Feely has never met the guy and that Ricky has had more shower time as a Miami Dolphin than Feely had playing time.  Anyways, what Jay needs to realize is that he can have an opinion.  But he doesn't need to chime in on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE.  He's a kicker, not a candidate for President of the United States.  Players can have opinions, but there's a time and a place for everything.  That's just something Feely can't understand.
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