Beck not cut

[TEKGOD]

You do realize that Beck and Quinn are the same height, right? And that Beck has bulked up so that they are pretty much the same weight as well, right? (Not that his listed weight is particularly low, anyway... but just in case you decide to bail on the "undersized" comment with the weight argument).

Quinn is 6' 4" & much more athletic
Beck is 6' 2"

Get your facts straight

[Sunstroke]

I like how the Beck supporters band together to bash anyone who is against Beck, but I haven't seen a single person step up and list for everyone the positive QB qualities Beck has that makes you think he will EVER become a decent QB. I hear a ton of excuses "why" he's sucked, but nothing to point to why he may someday "not suck."

And, for what it's worth, I took EVERYTHING into consideration before passing judgement on Beck. His crappy supporting cast, mismanagement, his hand size, the schemes he used at BYU, his mission to bring salvation to poor heathen portuguese children and delay his NFL career for 3 years...everything.

John Beck won't ever be a quality QB in the NFL. He doesn't have the physical ability to achieve that status. No amount of disclaimers and excuses from others will change the opinion that I've developed by watching him play with my own eyes.

[Brian Fein]

I wonder how many John Beck haters say "he never should have been drafted to begin with" and still say "we should have drafted Brady Quinn"?

[Sunstroke]

Really...Fuck Brady Quinn. He's never entered into my thoughts when considering Beck's potential as a QB. Do I wish we'd gone with Quinn instead? Yes, but I wish we'd gone with one of a number of other QBs in that class other than Beck. Stanton, Edwards...no problema.

[Rick]

All 4 games, huh?

 Not once have you considered he was out there basically by himself.  No running back, no quality vet Wr & a below Avg.  Te.

Yeap, I can see where you think he should have lite up the NFL.

Now that is pathetic.

Beck had the oppurtunity to be Miami's starting Qb this season, but he could not even beat out  journeymen Josh McCown and a 23 year old rookie...now that's Pathetic...that shows John Beck's ability right there.  He sucks.

 If Beck is gonna be a good qb, WHY aren't teams lining up to trade for him since we know he is done in Miami?  

[Brian Fein]

Beck had the oppurtunity to be Miami's starting Qb this season, but he could not even beat out  journeymen Josh McCown and a 23 year old rookie...now that's Pathetic...that shows John Beck's ability right there.  He sucks.

No one has determined the starting QB yet - how the hell do you know who he's beat out and who he's not?

Really...Fuck Brady Quinn. He's never entered into my thoughts when considering Beck's potential as a QB. Do I wish we'd gone with Quinn instead? Yes, but I wish we'd gone with one of a number of other QBs in that class other than Beck. Stanton, Edwards...no problema.

I personally don't lump you in with that statement, Stroke, because you've provided more reasons for leading the "I hate John Beck" Bandwagon other than "he sucks" and "he's not Brady Quinn"

[Rick]

No one has determined the starting QB yet - how the hell do you know who he's beat out and who he's not?

Chad Pennington wasn't brought in to sit on the bench....Henne and Pennington are taking almost ALL of the snaps at practice....McCown and Beck are basically standing there and watching....Usually, the guys who are gonna play,  practice

[StL FinFan]

Wow, I just read this whole thread and it's really amusing to see how many people were sucked in by that rumor.  I still say they should cut McCown.  They brought him in because they needed a veteran and then another became available.  Cutting McCown would not be saying they made a mistake.  It would be saying they feel Pennington is a better fit so McCown became expendable.

There seem to be two opposite opinions on Beck. 1. Get rid of him, he'll never amount to anything and 2. Give the poor guy a chance, will ya?  I am moving from 2 towards 1, but I still think if they are  going to keep 3 QB McCown should be the one to go. 

[Rick]

This argument is far too logical for people with so much NFL scouting experience. 

  I have no scouting experience.... I just LOVE football!!!  

          What the Hell has John Beck done to make you think he will be a good NFL QB?

            Why aren't NFL teams lining up to trade for Beck, since he is obviously done in
             Miami ( they should since he has so much up-side right?) ?

            These questions are for anyone on the board who is Pro-Beck!

               

[StL FinFan]

The better question would be: What are your arguments for keeping McCown over Beck?  I don't think anyone is saying Beck will be good, he has the potential to be good.  Most teams already have a young QB they are trying to develop and don't want to take a chance on an unknown outcome.  Granted, Beck has done nothing so far, but he has not had much to work with.  McCown has had a lot more of a chance to prove himself and he has not.  Either one of them is going to be thrid string, so it comes down to which guy you hate less.

[CF DolFan]

The better question would be: What are your arguments for keeping McCown over Beck?  I don't think anyone is saying Beck will be good, he has the potential to be good.  Most teams already have a young QB they are trying to develop and don't want to take a chance on an unknown outcome.  Granted, Beck has done nothing so far, but he has not had much to work with.  McCown has had a lot more of a chance to prove himself and he has not.  Either one of them is going to be thrid string, so it comes down to which guy you hate less.

Alright ... you people and using logic are going to give everyone a bunch of migraines.  There are only two camps here that you are allowed to speak of. 

The first camp is the one that has all of the super knowledgeable fans or coaches who just didn't get the opportunity to coach. They realize that Beck is the lowest of QBs and should feel blesssed to even be considered a QB in the great game of football. These intelligent "Beck Sucks" people are almost offended that anyone could possibly think that anyone in the world might be willing to take a chance on giving him some time to develop. As a bonus they also realize that Henne is the second coming of Marino and needs absolutely no time to develop. In fact, if he is not starting by week 3 then they feel we as fans are being ripped off by the cheap arse Wayne.

The other camp is the "Beck lovers". They are the ones who think Beck is God's gift to football  and think he has done no wrong. They think Beck should start no matter what and that Henne is a loser who will fail us miserably. They think that Cam Cameron's whole defining momnet in life came the moment he selected Beck over that other guy. Now I do not know anyone like this but the first camp puts everyone who does not see things as they do into this camp so I know it must exist somehwere.

There is no room in here, at least to those who are adament about killing this subject, for any views or observations that fall anywhere in between.  Beck sucks. He's a low life and by all means ... do not disagree!!!!!

[landlocked]

Quinn is listed at 6'3" and 235lbs
Beck is 6'2" and 215 according to their teams respective websites.One inch and a difference of 20 lbs......not much difference.And as far as being athletic,Beck also played baseball in high school as did Quinn.Both are young inexperienced NFL qbs, and both have looked shaky in their time on the field in game situations.It takes a qb coming out of college approx. 4 years to really get it at the pro level and as Dphins4me pointed out,Beck was basically all alone out there.I also agree with STL and think McCown is the odd man out.Our qbs on opening day will be Pennington,Beck,and Henne.

[CF DolFan]

Quinn is listed at 6'3" and 235lbs
Beck is 6'2" and 215 according to their teams respective websites.One inch and a difference of 20 lbs......not much difference.And as far as being athletic,Beck also played baseball in high school as did Quinn.Both are young inexperienced NFL qbs, and both have looked shaky in their time on the field in game situations.It takes a qb coming out of college approx. 4 years to really get it at the pro level and as Dphins4me pointed out,Beck was basically all alone out there.I also agree with STL and think McCown is the odd man out.Our qbs on opening day will be Pennington,Beck,and Henne.

I don't believe that to be true though it would make the most sense. 

Parcells and Co. are vested into McCown so if for no other reason than to save face ... I think Beck will be gone.  They have no ties to him and any loss from him being cut can be atrributed to Cam's reign.  If they cut McCown then they will be admitting they made a mistake.

[fyo]

Quinn is 6' 4" & much more athletic
Beck is 6' 2"

Get your facts straight

F U

nfl.com has both players listed at 6-2

http://www.nfl.com/players/bradyquinn/profile?id=QUI529720
http://www.nfl.com/players/johnbeck/profile?id=BEC177695

[StL FinFan]

I don't think that would be admitting signing McCown was a mistake, rather, a better veteran became available, making McCown expendable.  You can spin anything.