Beck not cut

[Sunstroke]

For everyone who is judging Beck on last season and the B.S. reports coming out of camp that are meaningless, you should really think about your judgements and the level of thinking that is being used.  This kid can be an outstanding QB.  What happened to him last year was a disaster waiting to happen and it had nothing to do with Beck.  Although I was impressed with Henne, I am not willing to say he looks better than Beck at this point.  Both Beck and Henne will benefit from Pennington.  McCown will not be changing much so what you see is what you get unless you just happen to get one hell of a team around him. 

Sorry, Doc...I've seen enough of both Beck AND McCown to know that I don't want either under center for Miami. This year, next year...ever. One of the two will likely survive the season on the roster, but I'm betting that by the time the 2009 season starts, neither are on the squad.

[Doc-phin]

I've seen enough of both Beck AND McCown to know that I don't want either under center for Miami. This year, next year...ever.

I can understand McCown since he has been in the league for a while, but why Beck?

Was he nervous in the pocket last year?  Sure, but he had no receivers, no running game, horrible weather to play in for the first two games, tough teams to play against under the circumstances and when he started training camp he was told he was going to be developed slowly and was designated as the third QB.

Simply put, he got screwed!  That doesn't mean he isn't good.  At the very least he has impressive arm strength and decent running ability. 

[DolFan619]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2008/08/14/if_beck_has_been_cut_his_agent.html

Sparano: Beck has not been cut

By Ben Volin | Thursday, August 14, 2008, 11:54 AM

There’s a rumor going around these Interwebs that John Beck has been cut from the Dolphins today.

The site profootballtalk says it has picked up “an unconfirmed tip” that Beck has been cut. It was posted at 11:26 a.m., mere minutes after Beck and his teammates finished their morning practice.

UPDATE TWO (1:25): Sparano denied the report, and said Beck will be at practice this afternoon. A full story is posted on our main site.

[DolFan619]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2008/08/14/0814dolphins.html

Tony Sparano says Dolphins QB John Beck hasn't been cut

By BEN VOLIN
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Thursday, August 14, 2008

DAVIE — Dolphins coach Tony Sparano today denied a media report that quarterback John Beck has been cut.

A sports Web site, profootballtalk.com, carried the story today based on what it called an "unconfirmed tip."

But Beck participated in this morning's practice and will be on the field later this afternoon, Sparano said.

"There's a lot of rumors in this business. John will be at practice today," Sparano said in his post-practice press conference.

The team has four quarterbacks in camp - Chad Pennington, Chad Henne, Josh McCown and Beck - and Sparano has said he might keep all four on the roster.

But teams usually keep only three quarterbacks. While Pennington and Henne are likely safe, Beck and McCown probably are battling for the third spot.

Beck is the only player with no ties to the Dolphins' current regime.

Bill Parcells, the Dolphins' head of football operations, drafted Pennington in the first round of the 2000 draft when Parcells was general manager of the Jets. Last week, Parcells and General Manager Jeff Ireland snapped up Pennington quickly when he was released following the Jets' acquisition of Brett Favre.

Parcells and Ireland drafted Henne in the second round of this April's draft. They gave the 29-year-old McCown $2.5 million in guaranteed money this off-season to compete for the starting job until Henne is ready to take over.

Beck, though, was drafted in the second round in 2007 (40th overall) out of BYU by Randy Mueller and Cam Cameron, both of whom were fired immediately after last year's 1-15 season.

Beck has had a tumultuous tenure with the Dolphins since he replaced Cleo Lemon as the starter 10 games into the 2007 season.

Beck finished the season with one passing touchdown and one rushing touchdown, with eight turnovers. Beck started in losses to the Eagles, Steelers, Jets and Bills, and went almost 14 quarters without leading a touchdown drive before being replaced by Lemon against Buffalo.

Beck finished the season with a 56.1 passer rating, and didn't lead scoring drives until the Week 17 loss to the Bengals.

Beck spent countless hours changing his throwing mechanics and working with new quarterbacks coach David Lee in the off-season.

But his struggles continued in training camp. On the second day of practices, Beck threw three interceptions during team drills, despite not having a pass rush in his face.

Beck and McCown have did little to inspire confidence in last Saturday's 17-6 exhibition loss to Jacksonville.

Beck played the first quarter and finished 5-of-9 for 45 yards. McCown earned mop-up duty in the fourth quarter, and was 5-of-8 for 35 yards.

This week, Pennington's first in camp, Beck and McCown have mostly watched from the sidelines, helmets in hand, as Pennington and Henne take all of the snaps.

The Dolphins travel to Jacksonville Saturday evening for their second exhibition game. Sparano has not announced the quarterback rotation.

[DolFan619]

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2008/08/becks-still-her.html

Beck's still here despite rumors

Not that it's out of the realm of possibility, but Dolphins coach Tony Sparano shot down an unconfirmed internet rumor on Pro Football Talk that said the Dolphins have cut John Beck.

PFT, a pretty cool Web site, said it was an unconfirmed tip. That doesn't mean it won't happen. My source's response said he wouldn't confirm or deny but then added that the same site had the Dolphins already signing WR Terry Glenn a few weeks ago.

It seems pretty obvious  that either Beck or Josh McCown won't be here opening day. My gut feeling tells me it's Beck, because he's not one of the regime's guys and also McCown has clearly outplayed him all camp, and brings a veteran presence in case Chad Pennington gets hurt. It seems Dallas would be a perfect landing spot for Beck to serve as a backup to Tony Romo, who right now has 40-year-old Brad Johnson and a bunch of no-names.

"No, there's a lot of rumors in this business and as I'm finding out down here there's a lot of rumors that [circulate] period. I don't mean that in a negative way about you...you know this guy's here from Dallas, that guy's here from this place. They're all rumors, no, and John will be out at practice.''

It's apparent that Sparano is preparing Pennington and rookie Chad Henne to split Saturday's game in Jacksonville. He added that Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams will get more carries, especially Brown. The bubble guys will probably be mixed and matched but expect them to be out there in the second half.

Stay tuned

Sparano said he spoke to the main combatants in the morning practice brawl between CB Will Allen and WR David Kircus. He tried to slough it off as a typical training camp spat, but even he admitted this one was stupid because the players could've gotten hurt, especially Allen who was swinging wildly at Kircus helmet.

Still not sure if it was TE Sean Ryan or TE Anthony Fasano who jumped on to the pile.

Rookie RG Shawn Murphy rolled an ankle.

> Posted by hfialkov at 12:11:44 PM

[DolFan619]

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/miami-dolphins/story/641969.html

Dolphins' Beck practices as rumors swirl

BY JEFF DARLINGTON
Miami Herald

There's no question Dolphins quarterback John Beck's future in Miami is currently in jeopardy. But if a decision to cut last year's second-round draft pick has been made, Beck still isn't aware of the move.

The quarterback practiced Thursday morning with the team, taking more repetitions than he has in each of the past two days. Typically, when players in Miami are released, the decision is made in the morning before the first practice begins.

Profootballtalk.com reported that it received an unconfirmed tip that the team severed ties with Beck. Such a move is certainly possible -- and could even be on the horizon -- but it has not yet happened.

A league source said Tuesday that Miami isn't yet shopping Beck for a trade, either. Again, that's also another potential option, but it also apparently has not yet happened.

Still, this much is known: Both Beck and quarterback Josh McCown are not scheduled to play Saturday against the Jaguars. The team instead plans to use only Chad Pennington and Chad Henne.

That could change, of course, since the Dolphins also altered their initial plan last week before the Bucs game. Initially, McCown had been told he wouldn't play against the Bucs, but shortly beforehand, Pennington's signing caused the team to play McCown for leverage and image purposes.

Since Pennington signed last week, the jobs of both McCown and Beck have been in limbo. Coach Tony Sparano has said he'd be willing to potentially keep four quarterbacks, but such a suggestion is extremely unlikely given the team's desire to make the most of roster spots with versatile players.

[Rick]

  That doesn't mean he isn't good.  At the very least he has impressive arm strength and decent running ability. 

  Ryan Leaf, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ty Detmer,  Etc., Etc., Etc.  all had impressive arm strength and decent running ability as well....none of these guys were very good QBs in the NFL either.

    John Beck does not have the mental toughness to be an NFL quarterback (starting or backup).....Period!!!!

[simeon]

I can understand McCown since he has been in the league for a while, but why Beck?

Was he nervous in the pocket last year?  Sure, but he had no receivers, no running game, horrible weather to play in for the first two games, tough teams to play against under the circumstances and when he started training camp he was told he was going to be developed slowly and was designated as the third QB.

Simply put, he got screwed!  That doesn't mean he isn't good.  At the very least he has impressive arm strength and decent running ability. 

No We got Screwed when Cameron drafted him 2nd round.

[Dphins4me]

    John Beck does not have the mental toughness to be an NFL quarterback (starting or backup).....Period!!!!

  You are basing this one what?  Your knowledge of him?  What some reporter wrote up?

[Rick]

  You are basing this one what?  Your knowledge of him?  What some reporter wrote up?

  I am basing this on John Beck's pathetic performance on the field.  He sucks.

[Dphins4me]

  I am basing this on John Beck's pathetic performance on the field.  He sucks.

All 4 games, huh?

 Not once have you considered he was out there basically by himself.  No running back, no quality vet Wr & a below Avg.  Te.

Yeap, I can see where you think he should have lite up the NFL.

Now that is pathetic.

[CF DolFan]

All 4 games, huh?

 Not once have you considered he was out there basically by himself.  No running back, no quality vet Wr & a below Avg.  Te.

Yeap, I can see where you think he should have lite up the NFL.

Now that is pathetic.

Don't go and bring logic into the conversation.     You are gonna confuse people!!!!

[Brian Fein]

All 4 games, huh?

 Not once have you considered he was out there basically by himself.  No running back, no quality vet Wr & a below Avg.  Te.

Yeap, I can see where you think he should have lite up the NFL.

Now that is pathetic.

This argument is far too logical for people with so much NFL scouting experience. 

[TEKGOD]

The Mormon is a dead man walking. And good riddance too, he should have never been drafted to begin with. He's pushing 27 already in his 2nd year, he's undersized, & comes from Aunt Jemima U in terms of offense. Where are all the Beck lovers now since hes been stinking it up at camp? This is what happens when you screw the pooch during the draft - had QUINN been drafted like he was supposed to be, the QB position wouldn't be in question. Instead here we are, staring at McClown & Noodles Pennington as your top 2 going into the season.

[fyo]

he's undersized
...
had QUINN been drafted like he was supposed to be, the QB position wouldn't be in question.

You do realize that Beck and Quinn are the same height, right? And that Beck has bulked up so that they are pretty much the same weight as well, right? (Not that his listed weight is particularly low, anyway... but just in case you decide to bail on the "undersized" comment with the weight argument).