one of the women in this picture is pregnant? Can you guess which one?

[Buddhagirl]

Does one have to be male to be considered a male-chauvinist pig?   

Curious you left off Mayor and Governor.  Did you realize she has an 80% approval rating?  Here comes a condescending remark about Alaska.[/color]

Anyhoo, there's nothing like a bit of left-wing "tolerance" first thing in the morning.

I am far from a male-chauvinist pig. I'm as pro woman as possible. However,  I have little to no tolerance for breeders though and really dislike the whole "soccer/hockey mom" culture. Those women have nothing to do with how I live my life.

 80% approval rating? Who cares? I'm sure that most Alaskans are just happy to see a woman. Period.
(And...yes. I did see your text there.) I dated a guy from Alaska. He was as backwards as you can get.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

CF, Palin is a member of Feminists for Life. Members of Feminists for Life are both anti-choice and don't believe in birth control. If you thoroughly study their site and read some of the interviews, that is understood. If Palin doesn't oppose birth control, she needs to distance herself from this group.

Feminists for Life
Log Cabin Republicans
Catholics for choice
Jews for Jesus
The Dolphin fans, Tom Brady fan club.

All of these organization make equally no sense. 

[run_to_win]

I am far from a male-chauvinist pig. I'm as pro woman as possible. However,  I have little to no tolerance for breeders though and really dislike the whole "soccer/hockey mom" culture.

If I was 1% as intolerant and judgemental as you then you'd be throwing out more -ism accusations.

80% approval rating? Who cares? I'm sure that most Alaskans are just happy to see a woman. Period.
(And...yes. I did see your text there.) I dated a guy from Alaska. He was as backwards as you can get.

Have you ever considered that maybe it's not EVERYONE else?

[CF DolFan]

I checked out Feminists for Life and found nothing to indicate they were against birth control. I found some blogs and articles written against them that said it but nothing to indicate it on their actual web site.  If I missed somthing feel free to forward it. 

From their mission statement and subsequent pages all I can tell is they are for women fulfilling their education and careers while still choosing to have children. They are obviously pro-life and discourage aborting babies just to advance oneself (they provide resources for help) but in no way did I see them even hint that their mission was to eradicate birth control.   

In the end if I disagree with her on this one point I don't know that it would matter.  I can find issues with pretty much anyone who didn't die on the cross and rise three days later.   

[bsfins]

I guess this is what Obama meant when he said "If my daughters make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby." And, you can see his point...No one expects to get pregnant as a result of sex. How dare Palins daughter and the father of the kid take responsibility for their actions by getting married.

Wow Let's compound one problem with another Problem...Having a kid,shouldn't be the reason to get married...

[Buddhagirl]

I checked out Feminists for Life and found nothing to indicate they were against birth control. I found some blogs and articles written against them that said it but nothing to indicate it on their actual web site.  If I missed somthing feel free to forward it. 

From their mission statement and subsequent pages all I can tell is they are for women fulfilling their education and careers while still choosing to have children. They are obviously pro-life and discourage aborting babies just to advance oneself (they provide resources for help) but in no way did I see them even hint that their mission was to eradicate birth control.   

In the end if I disagree with her on this one point I don't know that it would matter.  I can find issues with pretty much anyone who didn't die on the cross and rise three days later.   

They completely dance around the issue. From their FAQs:

Feminists for Life's mission is to address the unmet needs of women who are pregnant or parenting. Preconception issues including abstinence and contraception are outside of our mission. Some FFL members and supporters support the use of non-abortifacient contraception while others oppose contraception for a variety of reasons. FFL is concerned that certain forms of contraception have had adverse health effects on women.

Our membership enjoys a broad spectrum of opinion that reflects the diversity of opinions among the American public.

In the time of the early American feminists, sex between married couples was not always consensual. Many women bore 20 or more children, of whom only half survived. In order to affirm women’s rights within marriage, most feminist foremothers promoted “voluntary motherhood,” whereby women would have the education and right to fully participate in the decision to have sexual relations. FFL likewise supports life planning by focusing on one's education and career plans coupled with mentoring and empowering programs for teens.

(For more information on “voluntary motherhood” in the writings of early American feminists, please see Prolife Feminism Yesterday & Today edited by Mary Krane Derr, Rachel MacNair, and Linda Naranjo-Huebl.)

I read that as them not wanting birth control. Especially after reading through other items on their site.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Feminists for Life's mission is to address the unmet needs of women who are pregnant or parenting. Preconception issues including abstinence and contraception are outside of our mission. Some FFL members and supporters support the use of non-abortifacient contraception while others oppose contraception for a variety of reasons. FFL is concerned that certain forms of contraception have had adverse health effects on women.

As I read that paragraph they are saying they don't have a stance on contraception, but they do have some concerns that some might have adverse health effects.

For example there are known risks regarding the pill.

Not every organization takes a stance on everything. 

For example the ACLU won't touch the 2nd amendment (pro-gun control or against).  It is outside their scope.     

[Buddhagirl]

For example there are known risks regarding the pill.

Please don't tell me this. I just got outta the hospital for blood clots on my lungs that the doctors think were, indeed, caused by The Pill. A very, very small percentage of women will face these risks. That doesn't mean it needs to be banned. I knew the risk when I went on The Pill and decided being child free was worth that risk.

I think they are hiding their stance on this one. Burying it beneath their "pro woman" vitriol.

[CF DolFan]

I almost NEVER listen to Sean Hannity but happened to stop on him as I was driving home.  He said that she is not against contraception.    I don't know how the organization officially stands or how Sean knows her view point but it is what he was saying during his little tirade. 

[Brians Stalker]

I don't think that they are hiding their stance on it at all.  They simply state that it is beyond their mission.  Just digging around the internet on them - and not knowing anything about them before this - it looks to me like their mission is to help women/girls who are ALREADY pregnant.  They want to help them find ways for the child to be born and for the woman to be able to continue with her goals.  It seems like they target the typical demographic for abortions and offer them support and options.   I don't really understand how this makes them anti-contraceptive.

[Buddhagirl]

I still see it as being anti birth control. They never say they are only concerned with pregnant women. I htink they are being shady in their stance on this.

[pintofguinness14]

I have little to no tolerance for breeders...

Buddha: Please define "breeders" for me. I'm not sure what you mean.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-to-media.html

Obama to Media, Politicos on Palin Pregnancy Story: 'Back Off!'

September 01, 2008 2:28 PM

At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin's statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

"Let me be a clear as possible:  I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama said, "and people's children are especially off limits.

"This shouldn't be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he said. "You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits."

Asked about the insinuation from the McCain campaign that the liberal bloggers trafficking in rumors about Palin write for websites that mention Obama, the senator said, "I'm offended by that."

The Democratic presidential nominee said, "There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us. I hope I am as clear as can be – so in case I’m not, let me repeat: We don't go after people's families, we don't get them involved in the politics. It's not appropriate and it's not relevant."

Concluded Obama before getting on his campaign bus headed to Milwaukee, Wisc., "Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired."

Obama got it right.  And I was one of the ones he was scolding....

Did Sarah?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnBZE

listen to how she scold the host for his calling a a cancer surviver a cancer and a bitch and his implying he wishes she dies thru giggling. 

[Buddhagirl]

Buddha: Please define "breeders" for me. I'm not sure what you mean.

A breeder is generally anyone (male or female) that insists on having tons of children. They generally feel that is the only way to live life and question those that don't want children, etc. This doesn't mean that all couples that have children are breeders. There's an entire mentality to it. The goal for most people are to be PNB.  Which stands for "parents not breeders". Parents I'm fine with. Breeders...not so much.  This is generally used in both the GLBT communities and the childfree communities.

A perfect example of a  breeder:  http://www.duggarfamily.com/

[Brians Stalker]

Obama got it right.  And I was one of the ones he was scolding....

Did Sarah?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnBZE

listen to how she scold the host for his calling a a cancer surviver a cancer and a bitch and his implying he wishes she dies thru giggling. 

It sounded like nervous laughter to me, but does it really matter?  Maybe she really thinks Green is a bitch.  She's entitled to an opinion just like you are.  I noticed that this story has been posted a million times in the last week, but I failed to find one from January when it actually happened.  That's because nobody thought it was a big deal until she was nominated for VP.