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Tepop84
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« Reply #120 on: December 11, 2008, 05:05:01 pm »

I'd say that's probably pretty consistent throughout the 90s.  Thanks Tepop.

Not really.  In 2006, there were 23 rushers with 1000 yards, in 2007, there were 17.  Ronnie's best year was 2006, and he was 23rd in yards. lol.
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« Reply #121 on: December 11, 2008, 05:09:53 pm »

I was talking about having 8 to 10 thousand-yarders per year in the 90's being consistent.  The fact that it's more than double now is astounding.  Thanks again for doing the dirty work.   
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« Reply #122 on: December 11, 2008, 08:56:52 pm »

Ronnie could have a 2000 yard season, with 25 touchdowns, and it still wouldn't be good enough for Spongepop.
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« Reply #123 on: December 11, 2008, 10:07:15 pm »

Ronnie could have a 2000 yard season, with 25 touchdowns, and it still wouldn't be good enough for Spongepop.

No, he could have a 2000 yard season with 5 tds, and it would be a great season.  But he is not going to, because he just isn't that good.
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« Reply #124 on: December 14, 2008, 04:40:54 pm »

Well ronnie actually had a decent day today, 10 carries for 67 yards.
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« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2008, 08:58:24 pm »

Well ronnie actually had a decent day today, 10 carries for 67 yards.

Interesting way to put it TeBob.  Today was not one of his better days, but you're actually commending him.
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« Reply #126 on: December 16, 2008, 02:44:13 pm »

I don't think Tepop is being a troll.  He's got a point.

Ronnie's Yards-per-carry haven't been great.  We love him, and that's fine, but when he doesn't produce, he just calls him out.  In this game, his YPC was up considerably from what it's been in past games.
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« Reply #127 on: December 16, 2008, 04:18:55 pm »

I don't think Tepop is being a troll.  He's got a point.

Tepop has repeatedly taken exactly the statistics that have supported his point and ignored everything else. When those same statistics no longer supported his point, he switched to some that did.

I'm not saying he's a troll. I am, however, saying he's a hater - and I don't buy his faux praise of Ronnie's latest performance one iota.
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« Reply #128 on: December 16, 2008, 04:28:18 pm »

Tepop has repeatedly taken exactly the statistics that have supported his point and ignored everything else. When those same statistics no longer supported his point, he switched to some that did.

I'm not saying he's a troll. I am, however, saying he's a hater - and I don't buy his faux praise of Ronnie's latest performance one iota.

I haven't ignored anything.  Everytime I say something true about how ronnie just isn't that good, and isn't worth 9 million against the cap to have 200 carries, the excuses start to fly.  Nobody respects penningtons arm, Oline can't block well, coming off an injury what do you expect... the list goes on and on.  10 carries for 67 yards is a good day for him.  It is a lot better than his usual day of 15 carries for 45 yards. 
At the beginning of the season ricky was outproducing ronnie.  The NE game Ricky had almost 100 yards without the benefit of 84 yards on 4 rushes from the wildcat like ronnie.  So ronnie had something like 18 more yards than ricky did, yet ricky wasn't mentioned in one article or highlight show.  It is just retarded that their is so much love for Ronnie when he hasn't really proven anything.  9 million agaisnt a cap for a running back who has a career season high carry of just over 200 and has only broken 200 carries in a season twice in his college and pro career is silly. 
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« Reply #129 on: December 16, 2008, 06:10:21 pm »

10 carries for 67 yards is a good day for him.  It is a lot better than his usual day of 15 carries for 45 yards.

And that right there is what makes you a HATER.

15 carries for 45 yards would be THREE YARDS A CARRY. Ronnie has 4.2 yards per carry, 10 touchdowns and only a single fumble.

Is Ronnie the greatest thing since sliced bread? No.

Is he a GREAT running back? Maybe, but not this year coming off knee surgery.

This season he is "just" good (and better than Ricky, but that's relevant only because you keep bringing Ricky up).

Hopefully, next season he shows us "great" again, like he did last year. The usual comeback pattern from knee injury is, as I've said a thousand times, exactly that. Officially "100%" in season following the surgery (assuming it didn't occur during the off season, of course), but production somewhat low of the players' "pre-injury level". I believe the average was around 80%, but I don't have the article (by Will Carroll, IIRC). 80% would, by the way, put his ypc at 5.25 - or around what he did last year.
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« Reply #130 on: December 16, 2008, 06:28:27 pm »

Here's Brown's stats so far for the season you hater

http://www.nfl.com/players/ronniebrown/gamelogs?id=BRO662745

It seems like you are judging him on one bad stretch of games (weeks 7, 8 and 9).

five times this year, he has had under 3.5 yds per carry

for the season...4.2 ypc is a good stat....10 TD's is a good stat....1 fumble is a good stat...9.1 yds per catch is a GOOD STAT...I think you're just a Ricky mark.

Have you already forgotten how great Ronnie was last year?  He can get back to that form again once he's completely healed from that knee injury.
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« Reply #131 on: December 16, 2008, 10:55:18 pm »

Here's Brown's stats so far for the season you hater

http://www.nfl.com/players/ronniebrown/gamelogs?id=BRO662745

It seems like you are judging him on one bad stretch of games (weeks 7, 8 and 9).

five times this year, he has had under 3.5 yds per carry

for the season...4.2 ypc is a good stat....10 TD's is a good stat....1 fumble is a good stat...9.1 yds per catch is a GOOD STAT...I think you're just a Ricky mark.

Have you already forgotten how great Ronnie was last year?  He can get back to that form again once he's completely healed from that knee injury.

5 time he had over 4.0 yards per carry.  4.2 ypc is an average stat.  10 tds is a stat based on getting all the goalline carries.  1 fumble is a good stat. 

Ronnie had a good start to the year, but 6 whole games isn't a season.  Like if Ronnie happened to get injured after the SD game, then everybody would still be talking about he is the next LT, should be mvp, etc.  But he happened to not get injured and fall back down to being a normal back.
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« Reply #132 on: December 16, 2008, 11:05:54 pm »

5 time he had over 4.0 yards per carry.  4.2 ypc is an average stat.  10 tds is a stat based on getting all the goalline carries.  1 fumble is a good stat. 

Ronnie had a good start to the year, but 6 whole games isn't a season. 

No, under 3.5 ypc is an average stat...Marion Barber is at 3.7 ypc....Matt Forte 4.0 ypc and so is Brian Westbrook....Turner is at 4.3 ypc, so is Frank Gore and Maurice Jones-Drew...but all of those guys are just "average" right?  Whether or not 10 TDs is goaline carries or not (actually most of those are about at the ten yard line or just inside when he ran them in) doesn't change the fact that he has TEN FREAKING TOUCHDOWNS! 
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« Reply #133 on: December 16, 2008, 11:08:35 pm »

No, under 3.5 ypc is an average stat...Marion Barber is at 3.7 ypc....Matt Forte 4.0 ypc and so is Brian Westbrook....Turner is at 4.3 ypc, so is Frank Gore and Maurice Jones-Drew...but all of those guys are just "average" right?  Whether or not 10 TDs is goaline carries or not (actually most of those are about at the ten yard line or just inside when he ran them in) doesn't change the fact that he has TEN FREAKING TOUCHDOWNS! 

LOL, right champ.  4.2 ypc is 21st in the league.  Not average at all. lol.
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« Reply #134 on: December 16, 2008, 11:22:41 pm »

LOL, right champ.  4.2 ypc is 21st in the league.  Not average at all. lol.

Those stats are skewed and you know it...he is 16th among RBs with over 10 rushing attempts per game...seeing as how he only gets just under 14 attempts per game, what do you think would happen if he got something like 20 attempts per game?  Do you really think it's just "average" when all of those players I just mentioned are around the same average ypc?  All of those RBs I mentioned (with the exception of Forte who is still having a damn good year) are elite RBs.  And your not taking into account that two of our lineman are out for the season, one of which is probably the second best on the team and plays the same side as our best O-lineman.  And yes, Ronnie is coming off of a major knee surgery and won't be the same until next year...and yes, no one respects Penny's arm, so they put eight in the box to stuff the run...you get tired of hearing the "excuses" but they are legitimate reasons why Ronnie isn't having a better year.  I'm getting tired of repeating myself...it's like talking politics or religion with you.
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