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« on: February 16, 2009, 12:02:05 am »

Albert Pujols indicated that he won't be ready to commit to the Cardinals beyond 2011 until he sees what direction they're going in for the future.
Pujols, who pushed for his team to sign Manny Ramirez this winter, clearly wants to see more money spent to improve the roster. "I want to win, like our fans want to win, just like our manager wants to win, our coaching staff, everybody in this clubhouse, the front office," Pujols said. "If they change their strategy then I'm going to have to change mine, too." Rotoworld.com

It's still a long time away, but Albert has a point and I mentioned it somewhat earlier. The problem is that Pujols is so good, the Cards will always be right around playoff contention, so management doesn't feel the need to spend money elsewhere. If they actually sign Manny for say 2 years, that will be the most lethal 3-4 combo in baseball. It would rank with the all-time greats as well. You saw what Manny/Ortiz did, this would be more lethal.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 09:22:58 am »

They won in 2006 and they are in the top half of the league in payroll.  What else does this guy want?
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 12:32:58 pm »

They won in 2006 and they are in the top half of the league in payroll.  What else does this guy want?

It sounds like he wants the payroll even higher and to win again in 2009.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 01:02:34 pm »

Who is not?  They never go after any big names, just reclamation projects.  The Cardinals have always been cheap.  Has he not been paying attention?

Modified to add:
Albert complains a lot but he really likes it here.  Besides, even DeWitt will not let his meal ticket get away.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=txcardinalspujols&prov=st&type=lgns

Pujols wants to end career with Cardinals
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JUPITER, FLORIDA (TICKER) —The St. Louis Cardinals have not returned to the postseason since their improbable championship run in 2006.

But that has not discouraged superstar Albert Pujols, who claimed he wants to end his career in St. Louis.

After arriving at the Cardinals’ spring training facility, Pujols addressed the media Sunday night, discussing a variety of topics such as his contract, the team’s future and baseball’s ongoing steroids scandal.

Pujols, 29, has two years and a team option remaining on the seven-year, $100 million contract he signed with the Cardinals in 2004. Barring a major injury, the Cardinals almost certainly will exercise their $16 million option on Pujols for 2011.

When asked if he would pursue free agency following the 2011 season, Pujols insisted he wanted to remain with the Cardinals.
 
“Do I want to be in St. Louis forever? Of course, because that city has opened the door to me and my family like no other city is ever going to do,” the first baseman said. “I don’t want to go to any other city. If that time comes I’m pretty sure wherever I go, they are going to do the same way - hopefully open the doors. But I don’t think it’s going to be anything compared to St. Louis.”

Pujols will be 32 years old entering the 2012 season and would receive lucrative contract offers if he tests free agency. But the two-time National League MVP claimed that winning is his top priority.

“People from other teams want to play in St. Louis and they’re jealous that we’re in St. Louis because the fans are unbelievable,” Pujols said. “So why would you want to leave a place like St. Louis to go somewhere else and make $3 million or $4 more million a year?

“It’s not about the money. I already got my money. It’s about winning and that’s it. It’s about accomplishing my goal, and my goal is to try to win. If this organization shifts the other way, then I have to go the other way.”

Since their magical 2006 season when they won the World Series after posting an 82-79 record, the Cardinals have missed the playoffs each of the last two years, going a combined 164-160 over that stretch.

Although they have been plagued by multiple injuries over the last two seasons, the Cardinals have received outstanding production from Pujols, a .334 career hitter who has belted at least 32 home runs in each of his eight years with St. Louis.

Despite battling a chronic elbow injury throughout the 2008 campaign, Pujols delivered one of his finest seasons, batting .357 with 37 homers and 116 RBI en route to being named the NL MVP.

St. Louis, which went a surprising 86-76 last year, has been relatively inactive this offseason. But Pujols is satisfied with the direction of the organization.

“It’s about being in a place to win and being in a position to win,” the seven-time All-Star said. “If the Cardinals are willing to do that and put a team every year like they have, I’m going to try to work everything out to stay in this town.

“But if they’re not on the same page of bringing championship caliber to play every year, then it’s time for me to go somewhere else.”

Pujols also touched on the issue of steroids drugs in baseball - a topic that resurfaced last week when Alex Rodriguez admitted to using performance-enhancers from 2001-03 as a member of the Texas Rangers.

According to Sports Illustrated, Rodriguez was named on a list of 104 players who tested positive for banned substances in 2003.

“Whatever they want to do with that list, that’s their problem,” Pujols said. “But I don’t want to sit here and talk about steroids. Every time I try to talk about it, it seems people want to take it a different way and say, like in the past, ‘He’s defending Barry Bonds because he’s taking (performance-enhancing drugs), too.’

“I don’t want to bring that controversy into the clubhouse. That’s not me. I just don’t think it’s fair when we talk about something like that and people try to throw me in the deep hole too because I say what I feel.”
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 02:32:09 pm »

Come to the pinstripes, Albert... come to pinstripes...
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 02:37:02 pm »

Come to the pinstripes, Albert... come to pinstripes...

The irony of you cheering for the Devil's baseball team (Yankees) is not lost on me...  Wink

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 02:57:51 pm »

Pujols is a generational player. He is someone you tell your grandkids about. The Cards can't let him walk.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 03:04:21 pm »

The irony of you cheering for the Devil's baseball team (Yankees) is not lost on me...  Wink



Lol! Good one.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 03:05:38 pm »

Pujols is a generational player. He is someone you tell your grandkids about. The Cards can't let him walk.

I say we wait for the situation to deteriorate, and pick up both pujols and BJ upton (former charleston riverdog) in 2011 and 2012 respectively.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2009, 03:16:55 pm »

I say we wait for the situation to deteriorate, and pick up both pujols and BJ upton (former charleston riverdog) in 2011 and 2012 respectively.

I have already submitted a request to Mrs Upton to get her five-tool womb busy producing a SS with some pop for my Padres in time for the 2028 season...but I'll take either of the current Uptons out there with no hesitation between now and then.


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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 09:14:38 am »

  Love it when a player is so vocal about how teams should spend their money.  Maybe a job in Gov is in his future.   Does he not know about the economy?  Probably not considering he is going to make over 14 million this year. 

If Pujols is so generous with other people money then do so with his own.  Sign a new deal for 500K & allow the Cards to used the 14+ million savings on other players.

I'd venture a guess this would not be something Pujols would be willing to do, so he should just STFU & play.

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 09:31:05 am »

Again - I don't see what the F Pujols is talking about.  I really don't.  The Cards had the 11th highest payroll in the game last season at $100,624,450.  They were within a couple million dollars of being #9 instead of #11.

19 teams spend less money on payroll than St. Louis.

Shut up and swing the bat, Pujols.  Seriously. 

I am the first one to bitch when a team doesn't spend money when they can.  St. Louis is not one of those teams.

If Manny were a good guy AND player he would have been signed by now.  Believe this:  the only reason teams like St. Louis haven't gobbled him up yet is because his act has been played.  No one wants to deal with this guy beyond a one year deal.

It's not that St. Louis wouldn't spend the money on a guy like that - they just don't want Man-Ram.  I don't blame them.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 10:01:41 am »


If Manny were a good guy AND player he would have been signed by now.  Believe this:  the only reason teams like St. Louis haven't gobbled him up yet is because his act has been played.  No one wants to deal with this guy beyond a one year deal.

It's not that St. Louis wouldn't spend the money on a guy like that - they just don't want Man-Ram.  I don't blame them.
  Yeap. Manny has made his bed with his act over the years, so he can either sleep in it or not.  Its his fault, but since when is something being your fault an reason to pay the price of ignorance. 

Maybe Gov bailout is on the way for him.

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 10:20:14 am »

I have no doubt Manny will make 90-100 million over the next four years.  I just think it will be in one year deals at a time.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2009, 10:25:12 am »

I have no doubt Manny will make 90-100 million over the next four years.  I just think it will be in one year deals at a time.
  The one thing Manny needs to consider.  He will be 37 Yrs old this year.  No  team is willing to commit that large of money into an aging player who's bat speed can slow down at any point & who's commitment to the team is questionable at best..    He might hit well for 2 more years, then the last two year be a shell of his former self.  You just never know at that age when it will get you.

Still if Manny were a more committed player then I believe he would have gotten a 3 or 4 YR deal for that type cash.
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