Obama addresses Congress

[Dave Gray]

I thought Obama was great.  I particularly liked his line about dropping out of college not being an option.  "If you do, you're not only failing yourself, you're failing your country."  I thought he was respectful of the other side and seemed to keep both sides happy.

I am now watching Jindel's rebut.  He sucks as a speaker.  He sounds like Kenneth from the show 30 Rock.

What did you guys think?

[Dphins4me]

  First off.  I pretty much do not believe a word that comes out of a Democrat or Republicans mouth.  They talk financial responsibility, then spend like they have an endless bank account ( Which basically they do )  They have ran this country into the ground & frankly I'm just sick of listening to either party.

  Second.  He talked the talk, but gonna have to take a wait & see.  Talk is cheap.  Results are what count.  I'm already tired of hearing him talk about the deficit they inherited.   You might have inherited it, but it yours now. Stop making excuses. Kinda like a new HC of the Phins.  I do not want to hear him remind me where they were & why they still suck. 

It will take about 3 Yrs, but I want to see how they are going to pay back that much of the deficit with the albatross they just passed.

The only thing we can do is wait.  However, if they have F-ed up.  We are all screwed.

[Dave Gray]

Uncanny.  After I made my 30 Rock Comparison on Jindal and Kenneth, I Googled both their names and apparently, I'm not the only one who thought it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/24/bobby-jindal-or-kenneth-f_n_169693.html

Also, did anyone watch this on MSNBC?  When Jindal first came out, he was all robotic and stiff and had this fake smile on.  You could hear Olberman off mic say "uuuuuuuuh god."  Hilarious.

[Buddhagirl]

I'm so swamped with school crap that I had to miss it. I'll have to try to catch it sometime today.

Dphins4me, if you don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth why do you bother watching or commenting? At this point, you're going past disagreement into flat out whining. If you did vote 3rd party, that guy lost. Get over it, get involved and work harder to get him (or her) elected next go around. Your incessant whining is quite tiresome and inhibits the ability to actually have a straight forward discussion.

[run_to_win]

When will Republicans learn that they need someone who is a good speaker, not someone with experience, ideas and a track record of success.

[run_to_win]

Your incessant whining is quite tiresome and inhibits the ability to actually have a straight forward discussion.

[Buddhagirl]

First, get a new graphic. Second, there has been no whining here. I've just not said anything at all. I have nothing to whine about.

[BingeBag]

I particularly liked his line about dropping out of college not being an option.  "If you do, you're not only failing yourself, you're failing your country." 

I really thought that was great. This is so true. Our country's advantage is in it's superior university system, and we need to be utilizing it to the best of our abilities. There is a reason our schools have such a foreign presence even in the tiny ones.


On another note, I like Jindal a lot. I have been following him for maybe a year and a half and really believe he has a lot of answers. He is health care reform personified.

I know you guys are going to be absolutely turned off at the fact that this is in the NRA honoring him, but get past that and you see a great speaker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqulJSzEPqM

[Dphins4me]

Dphins4me, if you don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth why do you bother watching or commenting?

To stay informed?  To continually point out their lies?  Kinda stupid of me I guess.  How many politicians say they want us to be in Iraq?  Where are we?

Heck Obama is expanding the troops in Afghanistan? I thought he said he was bringing them home?  Oh wait his actions do not matter, its his words that count.

At this point, you're going past disagreement into flat out whining. If you did vote 3rd party, that guy lost. Get over it, get involved and work harder to get him (or her) elected next go around. Your incessant whining is quite tiresome and inhibits the ability to actually have a straight forward discussion.

 Gonna have to explain how I'm whining.  Not the least big upset my guy lost.  Didn't have a snow balls chance in hell ( If you believe in hell ).  

  How can you have a straightforward conversion on empty talk?  Does history not tell you its their actions that count?  George Bush senior stood up there & promised no new taxes & told us to read his lips.   What happened?

   Do you actually think Obama is not in favor of bigger Gov. when the stimulus package is nothing but Gov expansion?   Since when has the Gov ever scaled back once its expanded?  Just once throughout history?    Do you believe him on that point?

Hell, didn't Obama promise to cut out the pork in Wash. during his campaign & even last night?   Then the very first major thing he pass is full pork & made he excuses for it, by actually saying.  " When has anything this big, not had some pork in it? "
Do you believe him on that point?  Do you believe his actions or his words?

   They all talk the game, but always have an excuse for why they are not doing what they promised to do.  They know the general population is full of people who do not care & are to ignorant to understand, because they educated them.  

And I'm whining for pointing this out?  This is not I hate Obama.  I'd say the same no matter who was making the speech, even if my guy had won.  I'm watching their actions, not their words.  Something more people in America should do.

Its kinda funny.  I get accused on calling people mindless sheep etc.., when I have not do so or thought it, but yet do nothing but get personally attacked.

Analogy:
If the other in your life told you they loved you & then went out & had sex with someone else, then came back & told you they loved you.  Do you actually believe they love you?  If so, then you would begullible.

[Dphins4me]

  Anyone that has read anything I have posted knows I have pointed out many times Pres. & their 10 Yrs plans.

Last night, Obama said they had already found 2 trillion dollars that will be saved in how many Yrs?

Wild Guess?  Anyone?

Yet, I'm being called whining for not believing their words & wanting to watch their actions.

In saying that.  I will give him credit for saying he will cut the deficit in 4 Yrs.  Lets see where we are in 3.  At least he did not say 10.

[Buddhagirl]

To stay informed?  To continually point out their lies?  Kinda stupid of me I guess.  How many politicians say they want us to be in Iraq?  Where are we?

Staying informed is a good thing. Constantly whining is not and saying the same thing over and over is not.

You say you're watching their actions, but Obama has barely been in office for a month. I'm taking the wait and see approach.

Analogy:
If the other in your life told you they loved you & then went out & had sex with someone else, then came back & told you they loved you.  Do you actually believe they love you?  If so, then you would begullible.

Gulliable? No. In an open relationship? Yes. Love and sex are NOT the same thing.

[MaineDolFan]

Oh boy.

For the first time I am a little nervous about our President.  I am thinking that he's about to out punt his coverage.

Under promise and over deliver.  Not hard to do.  The guy went from solving our recession to making sure every American has a college degree to medical insurance for all to (wrongly) stating that America invented the car and promising to cure cancer.

The guy said that we would cure cancer on his watch.  That's great, Prez.  But what the FUCK do you think people have been trying to do for decades?  

Oh, all that and let's finally figure out the two wars.

I was a little insulted last night.  I'm not much for ear candy.  And last night was ear candy, sorry.

"The check is in the mail?"  Really?  WHAT CHECK?

You're going to magically reform health care in the NEXT YEAR?  Huh.  I guess no one else has ever tried that?

I love ambition.  Don't get me wrong.  And I understand his whole thing is "we can do more than one thing at a time."  Of course you can.  But why not toss in "we'll colonize the moon by the end of my term to ease over crowding" while you're at it.

There is ambition and then there are pipe dreams aimed at people that speech writers, apparently, don't think know the difference.

Good speech?  Yes.  Did he come down a couple notches in my eyes after last night?  Maybe not quite yet.  If he on the clock in a massive way now?  Yep.  I expect cancer to be cured by June.  I expect health care to be completely overhauled and running like a fine tuned engine this time next year.  I expect to see a flood of Americans graduating from college in the next two years.  I expect Detroit to pump out the world's best cars soon and I also expect to see some wind turbines on my street by 2011.

You're on the clock, Prez.  You set the goals, now go achieve them.

[MaineDolFan]

Heck Obama is expanding the troops in Afghanistan? I thought he said he was bringing them home?  Oh wait his actions do not matter, its his words that count.

Actually - if you were paying attention at all - you would know he's been beating the "we need more in Afghanistan and less in Iraq drum for a LONG time. 

[Phishfan]

"The check is in the mail?"  Really?  WHAT CHECK?

He didn't say it was in the mail, he said it is on the way. He was referring to the payroll tax breaks that will be implemented April 1.

I think we just have to wait and see what happens. I am holding out hope that we can get the economy back on track with this package. I don't believe I have ever believed all the promises I have heard from a President and this time is not different. We aren't going to know anything for a while so let's sit back and hope for the best and do what we can.

[Spider-Dan]

When will Republicans learn that they need someone who is a good speaker, not someone with experience, ideas and a track record of success.

What makes you think they need any of the above?  Apparently, you can have none of the above and get elected to two terms as President (OK, one with an assist from the Supreme Court).