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« on: July 30, 2009, 09:48:11 am »
The Sporting News has given the top award to John Wooden. When compiling a greatest ever list of anything it is tough to make sure everyone is represented accurately. I like the list for the most part but I think Bill Walsh is rated too low. Anyone else see anything you might change?

1. John Wooden, college basketball
2. Vince Lombardi, NFL
3. Bear Bryant, college football
4. Phil Jackson, NBA
5. Don Shula, NFL
6. Red Auerbach, NBA
7. Scotty Bowman, NHL
8. Dean Smith, college basketball
9. Casey Stengel, MLB
10. Knute Rockne, college football
11. Pat Summitt, women's college basketball
12. Paul Brown, NFL
13. Joe Paterno, college football
14. George Halas, NFL
15. Chuck Noll, NFL
16. Bob Knight, college basketball
17. Joe Gibbs, NFL
18. Tom Landry, NFL
19. Mike Krzyzewski, college basketball
20. Bill Belichick, NFL
21. Adolph Rupp, college basketball
22. Joe McCarthy, MLB
23. Eddie Robinson, college football
24. Bobby Bowden, college football
25. John McGraw, MLB
26. Bill Walsh, NFL
27. Woody Hayes, college football
28. Connie Mack, MLB
29. Bud Wilkinson, college football
30. Pat Riley, NBA
31. Pete Newell, college basketball
32. Joe Torre, MLB
33. Bill Parcells, NFL
34. Tom Osborne, college football
35. Walter Alston, MLB
36. Bo Schembechler, college football
37. Toe Blake, NHL
38. Sparky Anderson, MLB
39. Al Arbour, NHL
40. Amos Alonzo Stagg, college football
41. Tony La Russa, MLB
42. Geno Auriemma, women's college basketball
43. Dick Irvin, NHL
44. Ara Parseghian, college football
45. Chuck Daly, NBA
46. Bobby Cox, MLB
47. Hank Iba, college basketball
48. Tommy Lasorda, MLB
49. Gregg Popovich, NBA
50. Herb Brooks, NHL
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 10:01:07 am »
Sparky Anderson's niece used to work with my dad. She was cool.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 10:05:27 am »
It irks me that Phil Jackson is above Red Auerback
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 11:03:20 am »
HAHA, the Celtics can bite it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 11:51:17 am »

I think Bill Walsh should be higher on that list as well. I consider him one of the ten greatest coaches in sports history.

Bobby Bowden is rated higher than Bill Walsh? You've gotta be kidding me.

At the risk of really pissing off some Dolphins fans...I don't think Don Shula belongs in the top-5 on this list either.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 12:04:41 pm »
Connie Mack should be higher on the list I think. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2009, 04:57:04 pm »
Herb Brooks belongs on the list....but not with NHL next to his name.  He had a losing record in the NHL. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2009, 07:50:13 pm »
^^^ He coached two of the best USA hockey teams.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 07:59:05 pm »
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^^^ He coached two of the best USA hockey teams.

And he was a winning college coach.  But he sucked in the NHL.  Just "hockey", or "olympic hockey" should be next to his name, not NHL. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2009, 08:22:28 pm »
Joe Gibbs I don't think belongs there, but that's more of my opinion than based on fact. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2009, 04:38:03 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on July 30, 2009, 11:51:17 am
IAt the risk of really pissing off some Dolphins fans...I don't think Don Shula belongs in the top-5 on this list either.

Any coach about whom the following was said belongs (in my opinion):

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2009, 07:27:32 pm »
I think Bill Walsh is accurately placed.

I'm not sure I would put Belichick so far above Parcells.  As a head coach, Parcells has only one less ring, and has consistently shown an ability to create chicken salad from chicken sh*t (with 4 different franchises).  Belichick did well with NE but was unimpressive with CLE.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2009, 08:39:32 am »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on August 03, 2009, 07:27:32 pm

I'm not sure I would put Belichick so far above Parcells.  As a head coach, Parcells has only one less ring, and has consistently shown an ability to create chicken salad from chicken sh*t (with 4 different franchises).  Belichick did well with NE but was unimpressive with CLE.

Do you define coach solely as a head coach then you may be right. 

If you access based on all their coaching then it is justified.  The Giants were not a balanced team, they won on great defenses, for both of Parcells rings the defense was coached by Belichick. While it is correct to say that "As a head coach, Parcells has only one less ring"  it is equally correct to say that "as a coach Belichick has three more rings than Parcells."
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2009, 09:15:52 am »
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The Giants were not a balanced team,


You do realize they were a top 10 offense as well. They were a bit more balanced than you imply while trying to make your point.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2009, 10:00:02 am »
Quote from: Phishfan on August 04, 2009, 09:15:52 am
You do realize they were a top 10 offense as well. They were a bit more balanced than you imply while trying to make your point.

In '86 they were top 10, but a lot of that had to do with great field position which comes from a solid defense.

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Scored 335 points (20.9/g), 15th of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 211 points (13.2/g), 1st.

Middle of the pack. 


 
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