Terrorism under Clinton/GWB/Obama

[dolphantom]

I would classify it as pale in comparison to the intellective ass whipping Spider laid on Dolphantom. 

Nice 

kinda like the asswhippin you take in everyday life?

[dolphantom]

^^^ Labels are often based heavily on perspective, and when it comes to wrong/right, good/bad issues, you should always expect the person to use the label that paints him (or the side he supports) in the most positive light.

kind of like spider dans posts.         i had such high hopes for him! LOL

[Dave Gray]

you know what spider, debating people like you, is a waste of time, because no matter how many facts are thrown at you, you come back with a bullshit rebuttal, so i gave up.

It seemed to me like it was quite the opposite.  Right or wrong, Spider make concise arguments supported by factual examples, that you seemed to ignore.

[dolphantom]

It seemed to me like it was quite the opposite.  Right or wrong, Spider make concise arguments supported by factual examples, that you seemed to ignore.

tell me dave, what did i ignore? and where are his so called facts? all i see is conjecture , and opinion.  no hard fact. and how could  he be "right or wrong "with  concise arguments supported by facts? isnt that a contradictory statement? its safe to say that, if his arguments were so consice, and fact supported , he would always be right.

[bsmooth]

...aren't you, at this very moment, complaining about the firebombing of Dresden?  I'm not sure I understand the question.

As for Japan, we would not have had to invade them alone.  The Soviets were already starting to mount an offensive from the west; the a-bombs ended the war before Japan's two-front war really got underway.  Without the a-bombs, there likely would have been a resolution in Japan that looked more like the resolution in Germany, with the East and the West having separate zones.  Instead, the U.S. pretty much took over Japan straight up.

It would have been questionable if and when the Soviets would have been able to mount a large scale invasion similiar to our ability. They got into Manchuria and declared war.

My question why was simply why was it easy to decide to firebomb the largest city of one member of the Axis, but not the largest of another. It was actually to carpet bomb targets in Europe than Japan.

[Spider-Dan]

Dresden was chosen for firebombing because it was determined to be both an easier target to reach and more helpful in spreading out the German forces (to better facilitate the Soviet ground invasion).

[Dave Gray]

tell me dave, what did i ignore? and where are his so called facts? all i see is conjecture , and opinion.  no hard fact. and how could  he be "right or wrong "with  concise arguments supported by facts? isnt that a contradictory statement? its safe to say that, if his arguments were so consice, and fact supported , he would always be right.

It just seems like you're making statements -- like attributing certain attacks to Clinton, but not using the same rules under Bush.  When confronted with that by Spider, with examples (or facts of things that happen), you didn't adequately explain why certain ones "counted" and others didn't.

[Spider-Dan]

tell me dave, what did i ignore? and where are his so called facts? all i see is conjecture , and opinion.  no hard fact.

GWB had "zero" terrorist attacks after 9/11?
Terrorist attacks in foreign nations count against Clinton, but not against Bush?
Clinton "swept terrorism under the rug" (by capturing and convicting Ramzi Yousef) but Bush bravely fought terrorism (by abandoning the hunt for Osama Bin Laden and declaring him no longer a concern)?

You have brought zero facts or supporting evidence in rebuttal; only lame jokes about selling bridges and childish "no, YOU got whipped!" playground comebacks.  That is, when you aren't bailing out by claiming that the discussion is now a waste of your time (but apparently, not so much of a waste that you can refrain from posting back-to-back-to-back responses).

Personally, I'm just waiting for you to decide to copy-paste another mindless wingnut chain e-mail as if it's your own writing, like you did in the other thread.  I mean, it was hardly noticeable last time; the grammar, capitalization, and punctuation were totally consistent with your normal posts, right?