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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2010, 09:40:11 am »


You must live in a little town or some shit where this isn't common?

I was thinking the same thing. Location plays a big difference in your decision making process. When I was in WV I wouldn't think twice about helping this guy out, but I have seen too much while living in Florida to care about people outside the group I am with. Too much shadiness in too many areas here.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2010, 10:19:30 am »

I was thinking the same thing. Location plays a big difference in your decision making process. When I was in WV I wouldn't think twice about helping this guy out, but I have seen too much while living in Florida to care about people outside the group I am with. Too much shadiness in too many areas here.

Exactly. A lot of times when I see this stuff, it's on my early morning run.  So, seriously what am I supposed to do? There is no way I'm checking to see if some guy I don't know is ok when I'm out running by myself.

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2010, 10:42:52 am »

Don't leave home without the glock........thats for sure.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2010, 11:30:31 am »

Can't say what you did was "wrong" or "right."  I personally wouldn't have laid a hand on the guy.  You never know what someone will do when under the influence.  He might have been more than drunk.

I would have called 911 and talked to the guy in a soft tone in attempts to keep him on the floor of the elevator.  While he probably needed to just sleep it off, his health could have been in danger as well.  Once the rescue crews got there I would say "thanks" and excused myself.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2010, 12:43:27 pm »

Here is another question to consider. Dave, since you were turned around and didn't have your bearings, were you even going to effectively be able to explain where you were in order for anyone to come if you did make the call?
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2010, 01:06:23 pm »

^^

No, I wouldn't have been able to explain where I was at that moment.  But I could've just ridden the elevator to the ground and said, "I'm on the corner of whatever and whatever."

The main logical reason for not making it my responsibility, other than being a little bit freaked out by the situation, was that it was VERY late and I had other people (including girls) that were dependent on me to get the car and take them home.  I wouldn't have felt right to leave them out at the bar while I waited for the cops or anyone else to show up.

And I also have, like some people on here have said, a sense of: If you don't want to sleep in an elevator, don't drink until you can't stand up / Not my problem.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2010, 01:48:53 pm »

Its about personal responsibility and accountability.  If you drink 4 bottles of vodka, no one is going to take care of you but you.  If people keep bailing the dude out, he'll keep doing it.  Waking up on the floor of a public elevator with no recollection of how he got there might have been rock bottom for the guy and provided the wake up call he needed to get this shit together.
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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2010, 01:55:22 pm »

Although it wasn't anywhere near as bad, I had a friend celebrate his birthday last weekend. His wife is a close friend of mine (long story for another thread) and she always like to get drunk and ask me for rides home. Well nothing was different this weekend except you could add him to the cannot drive category due to it being his birthday. They had her mother and stepfather there, but everyone wanted me to be their driver. Normally, I wouldn't think twice about it except

#1 I told them I would leaving early in the evening
#2 She always puts me in the position of dealing with her drunkenness

I left and told the mother she had to deal with it.
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2010, 02:12:04 pm »


The main logical reason for not making it my responsibility, other than being a little bit freaked out by the situation, was that it was VERY late and I had other people (including girls) that were dependent on me to get the car and take them home.  I wouldn't have felt right to leave them out at the bar while I waited for the cops or anyone else to show up.

And I also have, like some people on here have said, a sense of: If you don't want to sleep in an elevator, don't drink until you can't stand up / Not my problem.

There really isn't any logical reason for not making it your responsibility to help the person out, you fucked up, didn't use your brain, end of story. Learn from it, and do better next time.

I don't care if this gets me banned from this board, i will say exactly what needs to be said, and i won't act like a cold hearted dumbass.
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2010, 02:14:49 pm »

There really isn't any logical reason for not making it your responsibility to help the person out, you fucked up, didn't use your brain, end of story. Learn from it, and do better next time.

I don't care if this gets me banned from this board, i will say exactly what needs to be said, and i won't act like a cold hearted dumbass.

It is in no way Dave's responsibility to help the guy out. End of story.
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2010, 02:18:57 pm »

There really isn't any logical reason for not making it your responsibility to help the person out, you fucked up, didn't use your brain, end of story. Learn from it, and do better next time.

I don't care if this gets me banned from this board, i will say exactly what needs to be said, and i won't act like a cold hearted dumbass.

This guy is not Dave's responsibility or anyone elses. Why do you think it is? Is this because you're 22 and live in a town with less than 4000 people?
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2010, 02:20:05 pm »

There really isn't any logical reason for not making it your responsibility to help the person out, you fucked up, didn't use your brain, end of story. Learn from it, and do better next time.

I don't care if this gets me banned from this board, i will say exactly what needs to be said, and i won't act like a cold hearted dumbass.

Dude...calm down.  ...and please don't call me a dumbass.

How is it my responsibility, exactly, that someone else got drunk and ended up stumbling around downtown?

If I would have helped (more than I already did), I would've done so simply out of charity.

I think you're being a little naive and putting small town mentality on a major city environment.
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2010, 02:24:02 pm »

Its not Dave's responsibility to do anything to or for the guy.  In fact, the only responsibility that Dave has is to NOT do anything like kick him, rob him, spit on him, or worse. 

The only one responsible for taking care of the drunk buffoon is himself.
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2010, 02:30:08 pm »

Not quite sure where you are getting off saying that this was Dave's responsibility here.....I am a little lost on that one. If Dave chose to help him great.......if not great. There are situations I would help people in and there are situations I will not. Every circumstance is different especially in a big city environments. I hate to tell you this but your opinion is not fact so stop acting like it is.
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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2010, 02:30:17 pm »

Probably the right thing to do should have been to call 911 and at least report it. I don't recomend putting hands on anyone with liability issues the way they are now adays.  But leaving a person wasted and helpless is kinda....not cool. But everyone here is monday morning QBing Dave here.  Raptor, he just asked a question so he knows better for next time.
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