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« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2010, 05:29:23 pm »

Just because people on the street wear something does not mean it is alright for even occasion. Your use of examples is hilarious. This country has a notorious problem of people wearing innapropriate outfits for their jobs, age, weight, height, skin tone, etc. People daily attire themselves in outfits and accoutrements that are not flattering and in some cases downright ugly. But with our PC society you cannot say anything for fear of violating someones right to look like an assclown.
She is an anchorwoman on a national tv network. She can and should be held to the same standards as other anchorwomen who also appear on a nationally televised network. Reading the cue cards with news updates is the same wether it is ESPN or CBS. The only difference is content.

I'm not talking about the "people on the streets".  People are allowed to go to work dressed stylishly nowadays.  I deal with men and women who work for some of the top architectural and design firms in NYC. I also deal with some of the top corporate personnel at high end retail chains (CEO's and Senior VP's). These are people in positions of authority. They are dressed stylishly. Its not uncommon for me to deal with a woman wearing a skirt short than the one in the pic on here and heels.

I hate to tell you, but its not 19 dickety two.
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« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2010, 05:56:46 pm »

She is an anchorwoman on a national tv network. She can and should be held to the same standards as other anchorwomen who also appear on a nationally televised network.

She is a performer in the entertainment industry (see the "E" in ESPN for confirmation), and the standards you're referring to are not ingrained in the constitution, nor are they part of state or federal law. They are standards dictated by her employer, who OBVIOUSLY had no problem with her attire.

Your use of examples is hilarious.

Please see the comment a few posts above that compares an employee of an entertainment company and members of congress and tell me that isn't as hilarious as any comparison made in this thread.

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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2010, 06:29:34 pm »

I don't find this to be a sexist issue.  There are many times that I've made a comment about a male's wardrobe on ESPN, most notably when one of their analysts (namely Deion or Irvin) dresses like he's going to a pimp ball.

If it's ESPN's policy not to comment on that kind of stuff, then fine.  But I don't think it's a knock on Kornheiser's character.
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« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2010, 06:40:02 pm »

Hannah Storm is a MILF of the first order...



Preach on brotha!!!........ I have no problem with what she's wearing. I wish that skirt was higher.
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« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2010, 06:52:00 pm »

She is a performer in the entertainment industry (see the "E" in ESPN for confirmation), and the standards you're referring to are not ingrained in the constitution, nor are they part of state or federal law. They are standards dictated by her employer, who OBVIOUSLY had no problem with her attire.

Please see the comment a few posts above that compares an employee of an entertainment company and members of congress and tell me that isn't as hilarious as any comparison made in this thread.




My comments were directed at the continual metioning of NYC as if that city is the be all and end all of all things culture in this country.
That being said. Katie was an host/anchorwoman of an entertainment show before her jump up. Just because you are on ESPN and not CNN or CBS does not mean you should dress like a garishly plaid colored eyesore.
Before this whole thing got overblown, I didnt even know here name. I knew the other female reporters that ESPN uses as I see them regularly at games and on the sidelines.
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« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2010, 07:03:45 pm »


You didn't know who Hannah Storm was before this incident?  No shit? I saw her as being arguably the most famous of the female on-air talent currently working at ESPN.

As far as the "garishly plaid colored eyesore" goes, please understand that not everyone's eyes get sore over the same things that your eyes do. As far as comparing ESPN to CNN or CBS goes, that is pretty funny. One is sports entertainment, the others are real world news.

And again...please see my comment above about who dictates her dress code, and their lack of a problem with Hannah's wardrobe choices. If Kornhole-eiser had an issue with Hannah's dress, he should have brought it up to someone at ESPN, not air it out on his show. IMO, his comments were 12 notches higher on the "unprofessional" scale than Hannah's knee-length (not mini) skirt.

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« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2010, 07:13:54 pm »


My comments were directed at the continual metioning of NYC as if that city is the be all and end all of all things culture in this country.

I wasn't saying it as if it was the be-all end-all. I could have just as easily said Philadelphia, Boston, DC, Chicago and Atlanta, as I deal with people in those cities and I am frequently there as well.
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« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2010, 08:04:07 pm »

Seriously? So I'm supposed to base the way people dress according to the way Congress dresses?
You need to clarify the context.

As I've already said, if Hannah Storm is out having cocktails with her friends and she's dressed like that, I couldn't care less.  It's not trashy or trampy (I think it's ugly, but whatever floats your boat).  But she's not out having cocktails; she's hosting a flagship news program for the largest sports network in the world.  The point I'm getting at is professionalism, and yes, I do think that members of Congress are a good example of appropriate professional attire.  If you have a problem with that standard, then certainly you should not object to the standard that Katie Couric or Diane Sawyer set.
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« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2010, 11:33:52 pm »

The point I'm getting at is professionalism...

The point you're getting at is your interpretation of professionalism, as it applies to the wardrobe tendencies of television personalities.

I'm just thankful that the people at ESPN who actually decide what passes for suitably professional on-air attire disagree with you, because I really don't want my Sportscenter to end up looking like C-Span or a grayscale version of Good Morning America.

Sports is entertainment...performance.. .grab the eye, the ear, the heart. Make it sizzle, make it pop, make it go. It isn't button down, it's gritty, risque and altogether human.

I say if Deion Sanders wants to wear his pimp zoot suit with 40 lbs of bling...rock and roll. If Hannah Storm wants to put her hair in pigtails and don a catholic schoolgirl outfit (give me a second here...mmmmmm), then more power to her. If her outfit bothers you, no problema...CNN is an easy remote click away.

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« Reply #54 on: February 26, 2010, 08:46:34 am »

Preach on brotha!!!........ I have no problem with what she's wearing. I wish that skirt was higher.

I have no problem with the skin believe me, but that outfit looks like little red riding hood goes to Catholic school . The X rated version.......just the boots baby.  Wink
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« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2010, 07:42:47 pm »

she ugly the clothes ugly tony spoke his mind on his own radio show,,,,
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« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2010, 08:42:34 pm »

I don't watch ESPN. I haven't watched it in years. When it started becoming a launching stage for sports commentators who wanted to be comics, I lost interest. The only guys worth listen to was Charley Steiner and Bob Ley.

The point is that ESPN, along with the WWE and NBA, is sports ENTERTAINMENT. That means anything to catch YOUR attention. Entertainment gives titles a different meaning.

I've always thought that Storm was very attractive in business attire and that she would trump any "Johnny Come Lately" to the broadcasting game. I don't think that she needs to worry about competition with younger women. You have to also consider what look the producers want their broadcasters to have. If ESPN is trying to target males from 17 to 55, then of course, you'll see Storm in a mini skirt.

You won't see Katie Couric in a mini dress because her audience is seen as more "mature". I love Lesley Visser. She is very classy and is a pioneer in womens' sports journalism. She has the respect of a lot of athletes, male and female.

Face it guys (or gals). That's the society we live in. I happened to be on the 16th Street Mall the other day and I looked up and saw a sign of a new women and mens department store that was opening.

It was called forever21.
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« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2010, 05:48:22 am »

The point you're getting at is your interpretation of professionalism, as it applies to the wardrobe tendencies of television personalities.


But actually the point isn't if Storm dresses professionally or not.  The issue is whether someone should get suspended for two weeks for expressing their interpertation that it ain't professional. 

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I'm just thankful that the people at ESPN who actually decide what passes for suitably professional on-air attire disagree with you, because I really don't want my Sportscenter to end up looking like C-Span or a grayscale version of Good Morning America.


Thats cool, but the issue isn't how she dresses or ESPN's control over her wardrope. 

ESPN doesn't care if the on air personalities dress professionally or not.

But they do heavily censor what they say.  Which provides for a diversity of wardropes but bland and boring censored comments regarding the analysis.  That is why ESPN sucks. 
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« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2010, 07:39:49 am »

she ugly the clothes ugly tony spoke his mind on his own radio show,,,,

Imagine that? having an opinion on a talk show.......seems like only Howard Stern can get away with it.
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« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2010, 08:51:27 am »

But they do heavily censor what they say.  Which provides for a diversity of wardropes but bland and boring censored comments regarding the analysis.  That is why ESPN sucks. 

Which is why ESPN sucks "to you," but to the majority of the sports-watching world, it is unquestionably the most successful sports media outlet the world has ever known.

Kornheiser was out of line with his comments.

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