Jordan's comments about Lebron.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Lebron is a primadonna douch, and a majorly immature asshole behind closed doors.  This is what the public doesn't know about him, but it is true.  The kid never grew up and is just a major jerk who's really good at not letting the outside world see it.

Behind closed doors?   He is primadonna douche and a majorly immature asshole out in public.  His lead up his two hour TV announcement puts the drama-queen Favre to shame. 

[Dave Gray]

While I agree that "The Decision" was a bad idea, I think that it comes from having bad advice around him.  He has his cousins or something as his advisers, and they don't know how to manage his image.

However, I don't think that defines his entire character.  He has a good image.  I'm used to be the first to criticize hyped athletes, but I've always liked Lebron, since he first came in the league.  He's always done and said the right thing, and never got into trouble.

I think that people are bitter, for the most part.  Any team in the league would love to have Lebron join their team -- any one.  Now that he signed up with the Heat, they're trying to diminish him out of fear of the onslaught off ass-kicking that's coming for the next decade.

[Fau Teixeira]

I find nothing wrong at all with the "Decision" .. Lebron was a free agent, with no ties to any NBA franchise and his 1 hour special had more viewers than a playoff game.

The fault lies with dan gilbert and the city of cleveland not understanding that when one of your employees has their employment contract expire, they are no longer your employee.

The only thing i would have liked better about the "decision" was if they had a row of jerseys and eliminated a team every 7 minutes by lobbing a flaming arrow and burning the jerseys one by one... now that would have been entertainment!

[Dave Gray]

I don't care that he did it, but it certainly hurt his brand, which it was supposed to help.

This was supposed to build Lebron up, but it opened him up to criticism.  It wasn't a good idea, for publicity's sake...that's all I mean.

People want it both ways.  This is all positive attention for Lebron.  He's promoting himself, yes, but people obviously want him to do it because they continue to watch.  It's not like he's getting promotion from cheating on his wife or shooting himself in the leg or whatever else.

[Fau Teixeira]

People want it both ways.  This is all positive attention for Lebron.  He's promoting himself, yes, but people obviously want him to do it because they continue to watch.  It's not like he's getting promotion from cheating on his wife or shooting himself in the leg or whatever else.

i agree .. at least he hasn't raped a hotel worker in colorado .. (that we know of)

[jtex316]

Also...someone should ask Charles "the most annoying human being to ever go from the court to the studio" Barkley how the "carrying the entire weight by himself" worked for him when it came to winning championships.

I don't know about then, but Barkley certainly does carry the entire weight by himself now a days

[bsmooth]

I find nothing wrong at all with the "Decision" .. Lebron was a free agent, with no ties to any NBA franchise and his 1 hour special had more viewers than a playoff game.

The fault lies with dan gilbert and the city of cleveland not understanding that when one of your employees has their employment contract expire, they are no longer your employee.

The only thing i would have liked better about the "decision" was if they had a row of jerseys and eliminated a team every 7 minutes by lobbing a flaming arrow and burning the jerseys one by one... now that would have been entertainment!

Fine, then do not keep your employer on the hook when you have no intention of returning so they can go ahead and fill the position with the best person available.
Lebron went out of his way to completely fuck over his former employer. Gilbert understands this and explains why he was so mad at Lebron.
I like Wade, but I hope the Heat never win with Lebron. To mean Lebron is just as much of an egomaniacal prick as Barry Bonds. I was happy Barry never got a ring, and I will be happy if Lebron's career goes the same way.
Lebron should not have been the MVP last year, Durant was better.

[Sunstroke]

I like Wade, but I hope the Heat never win with Lebron.

Hope in one hand, and crap a good load in the other...and neither hand will prevent the titles from coming to LeBron, Dwyane and Chris.

To me Lebron is just as much of an egomaniacal prick as Barry Bonds.

Could be worse, I suppose...he could be a criminal rapist like Kobe, right?

[Dave Gray]

I like Barkley.  ...a lot actually.

But while I find him humorous, I think that his opinion on the subject is even less valuable than mine.  He's kinda the perfect example of someone you shouldn't listen to about this kind of thing.

[Tepop84]

I hope the heat never win a title with lebron and they take his stupid not one, not two, not .... title quote and reverse it so it ends at not one.

[bsmooth]

Hope in one hand, and crap a good load in the other...and neither hand will prevent the titles from coming to LeBron, Dwyane and Chris.

Could be worse, I suppose...he could be a criminal rapist like Kobe, right?

Well there is a huge difference between being accused of a crime, and actually convicted. I have no doubt Kobe had relations with that woman, but was it forcible rape, who knows.

[Dave Gray]

The thing that pissed me off about the whole Kobe thing was that he lied to me, directly.  I don't care that he lied to his wife.  But, he held a press conference to his fans and denied sleeping with her, saying "you know me."

So, I believed him.

That pissed me off.  I felt personally betrayed, strangely.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Do you realize that Jordan was swept in 86 and 87 by the celtics. I love pippen, but he was the one who got migranes when the pistons kept pounding him. I agree with Jordan. The all time greats have a fierce competiveness about them. The great players feel nobody can beat them. Jordan always felt he was the best and he would eventually break thru the pistons and any other team in his way.

When Isiah Thomas kept losing to the celtics he never wanted to join Larry, he wanted to beat him. No matter how many times Patrick Ewing or Reggie miller lossed to Jordan, the mindset was to keep plugging until they eventually broke thru. Barkley would never think of teaming up with Jordan. These guys had a competitive fire that burned in them, because the wanted to be the man.

Lebron wants to carry this persona as the King and the chosen one. Well act like a king. Don't run from the pressure and the responsibility that goes along with being a king. By joining Miami he can no longer be mentioned in the same breath as Kobe, MJ, Bird, or Magic. If you ask me that's a good thing. I'm glad he gave up the number 23, because lebron dosent realize what that number symbolizes. Greatness is what it symbolizes. Thank you Jordan for speaking the truth.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. Lebron saying "It's nice not to have to score 30 points a night" was indicative of him  not having the desire to be an all-time great. Don't get me wrong, Lebron is obviously an amazing player, but he just doesn't have that instinct. HE is now Pippen, not Jordan. The Heat are Wade's team.

I understand what Lebron did though. I mean, who wouldn't want to form a super team with your friends in Miami and still make millions? But he sacrificed a huge chunk of his legacy. Michael wouldn't have done that and I hate Jordan, so it pains me to say this.

[SportsChick]

Parish and mchale joined bird thru trades.

Yes and no. Parrish was acquired via trade but McHale was drafted by the Celts. The pick to draft him was acquired via trade, but McHale himself was not acquired via trade (Red Auerach NBA Grand Larceny that one was)

As for Jordan's comments, I see what he's saying to a degree. To me he was commenting that he didn't want to play with the best (and at that time, Jordan, Bird and Magic were the best in the game, although Bird and Magic were on the downswing), he wanted to kick the crap out of them and beat them on the court. I get that.

I think, and obviously I have zero insight into Jordan's train of thought, that Jordan is seeing this as the easy way out - why try to beat them when I can play with them and take over the world.

While this is good for Miami, I'm not so sure this is going to be good for the NBA as a whole as time marches on.

[Phishfan]

Could be worse, I suppose...he could be a criminal rapist like Kobe, right?

It is pretty important to use the word alleged in there.