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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 06:29:11 am »

If you didn't stop being a dolphin fan when they hired Dick Saban
(Dick)  I know it's Nick.  I think we should take a poll.  Gruden would be an outstanding choice.  Tough but fair, football knowledgable, and head coaching experience, oh and by the way will fill seats.  I am sure we could debate this all day.  Who would be your choice? Dolphins Forever out!
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2010, 06:40:33 am »

My last post was actually addressed to tenshot13
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2010, 06:48:18 am »

We need an offensive minded coach as our next head coach.

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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 12:13:38 pm »

Our last few head coahes (Saban, Cam, Sparano) didn't have NFL Head coaching expereince.

When we hire our next guy I think we should go with someone who won't be learning on the job what it takes to be an NFL head coach. That is why a Gruden, Cowher, Fox would top my list. Obviously they will be the best candidates but they have experience. Even a Brian Billick I wouldn't mind.

I agree it can be beneficial to have a head coach with previous head coaching experience, but that doesn't guarantee anything.  It's great if you can get a guy like Cowher that left a winning program, but all too often the guys with previous head coaching experience aren't with their former teams because they weren't getting it done.  Now that Sparano has done some on the job training perhaps he will be improved next year.  I only have two problems with Sparano, first is Henning, who will most likely be gone at years end; and secondly the benching of Henne.  The Henne benching never fully played out because Pennington was immediately injured followed by Henne's injury.  Who knows what Sparano would have done, would he have put Henne in the game in the second half?  Would he have started him against the Bears?  Who knows.

At this point I think you bring Sparano back for another year, unless Cowher wants to come to Miami.
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2010, 12:57:12 pm »

I agree it can be beneficial to have a head coach with previous head coaching experience, but that doesn't guarantee anything.  It's great if you can get a guy like Cowher that left a winning program,

Name one head coach that has won a SB with two different teams.  You got guys like Belichick, Shula and Dungy who didn't get it done in their first stint but did in their second.  But hiring a guy who as won a superbowl e.g. Parcells, Holmgren or Reeves hasn't worked so well. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2010, 01:11:36 pm »

Name one head coach that has won a SB with two different teams.  You got guys like Belichick, Shula and Dungy who didn't get it done in their first stint but did in their second.  But hiring a guy who as won a superbowl e.g. Parcells, Holmgren or Reeves hasn't worked so well. 
Well that's a bit of stretch for Shula.  He actually got his team to the Superbowl and lost before having a bit of a falling out with the owner and went to Miami where he built them into a perennial powerhouse.  Just saying. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2010, 01:20:29 pm »

Well that's a bit of stretch for Shula.  He actually got his team to the Superbowl and lost before having a bit of a falling out with the owner and went to Miami where he built them into a perennial powerhouse.  Just saying. Smiley

No it ain't.  Shula's first stint was better than Belichick's first sint, no question.  But both men were ringless.  Both men had something to prove.  Neither were being discussed for the HOF.  Cowher has nothing to prove. 
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2010, 01:44:35 pm »

Cowher has nothing to prove. 

It's often said that if Cowher goes back to coaching, he stands a better chance of tarnishing his "legacy" and status as an "elite coach".
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2010, 01:46:36 pm »

No it ain't.  Shula's first stint was better than Belichick's first sint, no question.  But both men were ringless.  Both men had something to prove.  Neither were being discussed for the HOF.  Cowher has nothing to prove. 
Well I don't think you can say Shula wasn't getting it done because he lost the Superbowl to Joe Namath.  That's BS.  The fact was that the Jets were a lot better team than people gave them credit for, but Shula took the blame for the loss.  Maybe he did have something to prove but he wasn't replaced because he wasn't getting it done, he was replaced because he had a falling out with the owner who THOUGHT he wasn't getting it done.
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2010, 01:59:41 pm »

Well I don't think you can say Shula wasn't getting it done because he lost the Superbowl to Joe Namath.  That's BS.  The fact was that the Jets were a lot better team than people gave them credit for, but Shula took the blame for the loss.  Maybe he did have something to prove but he wasn't replaced because he wasn't getting it done, he was replaced because he had a falling out with the owner who THOUGHT he wasn't getting it done.

Obviously it was the right move for the Colts cause McCafferty got it done. 

BTW 31 coaches won't get it done this year. 

As for your last line...same could be said for Belichick.  It had more to due with friction with the owner (and media and fans) than coaching. 

My point being hiring a guy with ring ain't a magic bullet, in fact it has never worked.   
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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2010, 02:40:34 pm »

You guys should study the history a bit more. Shula was replaced because he chose to leave to coach Miami and left a vacancy. The Dolphins and Joe Robbie were actually blamed for tampering because of that move and lost a draft pick. The Colts did not get rid of Don Shula.
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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2010, 03:26:42 pm »

You guys should study the history a bit more. Shula was replaced because he chose to leave to coach Miami and left a vacancy. The Dolphins and Joe Robbie were actually blamed for tampering because of that move and lost a draft pick. The Colts did not get rid of Don Shula.

I admit my knowdge of Shula and his move is not complete....

But you can have falling out with the owner and still lose a pick for tampering....for example Parcells to Jets. 
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2010, 03:30:17 pm »

You guys should study the history a bit more. Shula was replaced because he chose to leave to coach Miami and left a vacancy. The Dolphins and Joe Robbie were actually blamed for tampering because of that move and lost a draft pick. The Colts did not get rid of Don Shula.
Part of the reason he left was because he had a falling out with the owner of the Colts.  Like I said, Shula didn't leave because he wasn't getting it done, he left because he wanted to.
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2010, 03:49:42 pm »

My mistake. I was thinking I had seen something I hadn't.
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2010, 05:37:37 pm »

Holmgren should have won 2 rings with 2 teams but the refs screwed him and are still appologozing to him even as early as earlier this year.

I wouldn't use the no coach has ever done blah blah blah....as a critera NOT to hire a good NFL head coach.
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