Short list of coaching options Miami will look at

[DZA]

sparano is not the problem .. Dan Henning and his bullshit play calling needs to go

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If you didn't stop being a dolphin fan when they hired Dick Saban
(Dick)  I know it's Nick.  I think we should take a poll.  Gruden would be an outstanding choice.  Tough but fair, football knowledgable, and head coaching experience, oh and by the way will fill seats.  I am sure we could debate this all day.  Who would be your choice? Dolphins Forever out!

I didn't know much about Nick Satan when he was hired, except his success at LSU.  I do, however, know Gruden's history. 

What makes Gruden such a great NFL coach btw?  Yes, he won a superbowl, but it wasn't because of the offense, which is his supposed strong point as an "offensive guru".  He took Dungy's defense and won a superbowl with them.  Did you know that it wasn't until week 4 or 5 (can't remember specifically, but it was one of the two) that the offense had scored more TD's than the defense?  Ya, real offensive guru.  What happened to that team after they won the superbowl?  Made the playoffs once or twice with a team that should have won the superbowl multiple times and become a dynasty.  Instead, he get's rid of guys like John Lynch and Warren Sapp, two guys who were the best in the league at the time at their positions, and still played at a high level after they were cut.  Yeah, real smart to get rid of those guys...by the way, Bruce Allen, who was GM, was just a puppet for Gruden...Gruden had all the say on who played or who he wanted on the team...Allen just did all the contract work to get it done.  Rich McCay, now the GM for ATL, had one year with Gruden, butted heads with him on whose job was whose, and what do you know?  He was fired because the Glaizers (owners on the Bucs) had invested so much in Gruden and he wanted Rich gone.  You guys do realize McCay was in the running for NFL commish along with Goodell?  Plus, he is one of the best GMs in all of the NFL.  Real smart to get rid of him too.

He had 11 years of head coaching experience and only has a .540 winning percentage.  To compare, Cowher has .623, Belicheat has a .624, Wade Phillips has a .573, Andy Reid has a .622, Lovie Smith has a .557, Tony Sparano has a .548...there are many more, but I'll leave it at that.

Oh and for anyone who says, "guys like Sparano haven't been coaching as long as Gruden did," Gruden had the worst record out of all active coaches that had been around as long as he had.  He was the beneficiary of coaching one of the best, already established, defenses of all time, and luckily, his stagnate offense came alive for him in the playoffs.  He isn't a good coach, he can't develop a QB, and he alienates key players that he feels "doesn't fit his system"...I've lived in the Tampa Bay area my whole life, so I know more than most when it comes to this guy and trust me, I know what I'm talking about...we don't want him.

[MikeO]

Gruden also was a big  winner in Oakland. And take away the "TUCK" play he might have another ring in Oakland as that year he had one of the better teams in the AFC.

Gruden can coach. To think otherwise is foolish

[MikeO]

Keep an eye on Jim Harbaugh at STANFORD as well. He will be the HOT coach this offseason who will have teams fighting over him.

[BigDaddyFin]

Keep Sparano as the head coach.  I have a short list of Offensive Coordinators I'd like to see us go after but I don't want to see any of this West Coast offense bullshit.

Mike Martz
Norv Turner
Jim Harbaugh (maybe).

[MikeO]

Keep Sparano as the head coach.  I have a short list of Offensive Coordinators I'd like to see us go after but I don't want to see any of this West Coast offense bullshit.

Mike Martz
Norv Turner
Jim Harbaugh (maybe).

1) Martz already is an O.C he can't leave Chicago for the same job in Miami. For one he can't, there are rules agaisnt that.

2) Norv was already in Miami as an O.C. it didn't end well.

3) Harbaugh isn't going to take a step down from HEAD COACH to O.C. especially when SF has already all but offered him there job. And others will make a run at him as well.

[Phishfan]

Not that I'm on the bandwagon at this point, but if (and this is a big if) Sparano is gone and the Titans part ways with Jeff Fisher what does everyone think of bringing him in?

[MikeO]

Not that I'm on the bandwagon at this point, but if (and this is a big if) Sparano is gone and the Titans part ways with Jeff Fisher what does everyone think of bringing him in?

I would LOVE to have Fisher. One of the better coaches in the NFL. Plus he runs the competition committee and gets a few gimmie calls a game....lol (Like Shula did in the old days)

Word is though he is gonna return to Houston since Kubiak is gonna be out the door there. And Fisher was the last coach of the old Houston Oilers. He has some ties with the city and all and there have been rumblings.

[fyo]

Word is though he is gonna return to Houston since Kubiak is gonna be out the door there.

They should just fire their DC, Frank Bush Sr. Get someone decent in there to complement Kubiak, who's clearly an offensive-minded coach (quarterback as a player, then quarterbacks coach, then OC). Houston have NEVER made the playoffs, EVER. But, really, they've never played at a higher level than under Kubiak (which admittedly would say more if the team wasn't so new).

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Gruden also was a big  winner in Oakland. And take away the "TUCK" play he might have another ring in Oakland as that year he had one of the better teams in the AFC.

Gruden can coach. To think otherwise is foolish

Where did I say he couldn't coach?  Everyone thinks he's this elite coach, and I'm saying he's average.  I know of his accomplishments in Oakland, and he still only has a. 540 win percentage.  Your arguement is very weak if after that long argument I just gave, with factual stats, all you can say was "he was good at Oakland".

[MikeO]

He was good in Oakland.  His last 2 years he won his division twice, was in the AFC Championship game. And the other year he got screwed by the refs on the "tuck" rule. He was NEVER under .500 in his 4 years in Oakland. Then he only went to Tampa and won a Super Bowl in his 1st year. And won the NFC South 3 times in his stay there. Yet he isn't "elite"....ha ha. OK.

But in your opinion Jon Gruden isn't an elite coach....it's silly. The man won big in both stops So he had a few bad years in Tampa. Chuck Noll had a few bad years in Pitt. Shula did in Miami. Every coach goes through a rough stretch, that doens't mean they stop being "elite".

And you brought up no facts in your "argument". You sound like a disgrunted Tampa fan. Hardly facts.

[BigDaddyFin]

1) Martz already is an O.C he can't leave Chicago for the same job in Miami. For one he can't, there are rules agaisnt that.

2) Norv was already in Miami as an O.C. it didn't end well.

3) Harbaugh isn't going to take a step down from HEAD COACH to O.C. especially when SF has already all but offered him there job. And others will make a run at him as well.

1. When did this crap start?  Where does it say that you can't quit one post and leave to go to another team? There might be compensation picks involved but so what.

2. Yeah.  Under Dave Wannstedt, during whose tenure nothing went well except that we had one of our best offensive years in 2003 with a quarterback nobody liked and "no viable recieving threat."

3. San Francisco is already offering a job to Jim Harbaugh when they were supposedly so in love with Mike Singletary?

Kubiak might be a decent choice to replace Dan Henning.

[MikeO]

As an assistant you can't leave for another team if it is a "lateral" move as a coach. And you can't trade picks for coaches anymore after the Oakland-Gruden-Tampa thing went down. If Chicago fires Martz or lets him go (gives permission), then he could come to Miami to be an O.C. But Martz can't just QUIT Chicago and take the same job with Miami. That is against NFL rules.

An example is, Denver let Nolan quit after last year and come to Miami. But if Denver didn't give the OK, Nolan couldn't just come to the Fins and take the same job he had in Denver


And Singletary is a lame duck coach. They wanted to fire him weeks about but they decided what would that accomplish having to promote an interm coach and all of that drama. Let him finish out the season then fire him. And SF was NEVER in love with Singletary, don't know where you got that info.

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He was good in Oakland.  His last 2 years he won his division twice, was in the AFC Championship game. And the other year he got screwed by the refs on the "tuck" rule. He was NEVER under .500 in his 4 years in Oakland. Then he only went to Tampa and won a Super Bowl in his 1st year. And won the NFC South 3 times in his stay there. Yet he isn't "elite"....ha ha. OK.

But in your opinion Jon Gruden isn't an elite coach....it's silly. The man won big in both stops So he had a few bad years in Tampa. Chuck Noll had a few bad years in Pitt. Shula did in Miami. Every coach goes through a rough stretch, that doens't mean they stop being "elite".

And you brought up no facts in your "argument". You sound like a disgrunted Tampa fan. Hardly facts.

Do you have selective reading?  Last time I checked, winning percentage was a fact.  I like to see Tampa do well, but I'm in no way a fan of theirs.  And way to twist my words around to fit your agenda.  I know he never had a losing season with Oakland.  Even with that success, he is barely a .500 coach lifetime. 

[JVides]

No to Gruden.  From What i've seen, the man is obsessed with bringing in old vets for his teams.  I want to continue largely building via the draft.