Why I don't think Cowher is a good fit in Miami.

[Pappy13]

just my crappy opinion, but what henne sucks at just isn't coachable. he sucks at decision making...

It's just my opinion too but that is one of the FEW things that IS coachable.  You can't coach arm strength or accuracy or leadership, you either have those things or you don't, but decision making most definately can be coached.  The history of the NFL is full of QB's who didn't make great decisions early in their careers, but later blossomed.

Henne has thrown 26 TD's and 30 INT's in his first 2 years so far.

The Chargers had given up on Drew Brees who threw 28 TD's and 31 INT's in his first 2 years starting in the NFL, now he's one of the best QB's in the league.  The Titans had given up on Vince Young who had thrown 21 TD's and 30 INT's in his first 2 years starting and this year threw for 10 TD's and 3 INT's. 

[Diehard_Dolfan]

If Miami were to chase down a coach, sign me up for Gruden.

Lord, please...sign me up for Gruden.

Bring in Chuckie.  For the love of CHRIST.

I just don't get the Gruden hype!

He was pretty good at Oakland but won his super bowl in Tampa with Tony Dungy's players. Look what happened after in Tampa....

[Thundergod]

Even Tony Dungy couldn't win it all with Tony Dungy's players. And what team did Gruden face in the Super Bowl? Just sayin...

[Dave Gray]

Comparing Sparano to Cowher is like comparing a go-cart to a Lincoln Town Car

Cowher is a proven winner.

So is Parcells.  So was JJ.  So was Saban.

Just because you've won before doesn't mean that you have what it takes to build up a franchise again.  Cowher is a great coach, but he's already been through the ringer.  He will likely demand a lot of power, won't be in for the long haul, and won't have the patience to stick with things if they don't work out right away.

Sparano and Cowher have a similar outlook on the game.  Their conservative style is the same.  That is a apt comparison.

[MaineDolFan]

just my crappy opinion, but what henne sucks at just isn't coachable. he sucks at decision making...

Not a crappy opinion at all.  Well said, I agree 100%.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Even Tony Dungy couldn't win it all with Tony Dungy's players. And what team did Gruden face in the Super Bowl? Just sayin...

Dungy built that team and had he been given one more yr he may have won it with his players!

But what did Tampa and Gruden do after that super bowl?

Didn't Dungy go to Indy and win a super bowl?

Just sayin...

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Didn't Dungy go to Indy and win a super bowl?

Dungy's role in Indy was pretty minor.  Bill Poulin is the brains of that operation. 

[Spider-Dan]

Bill Polian also oversaw a team that went from 13-3 to 10-6 to 6-10 with a veteran Peyton Manning at the helm.  Dungy came in, immediately put them back in the playoffs, then rattled off 6 straight 12+ win seasons and a championship.  I think he deserves a good deal of the credit.

And regardless of Dungy's work in Indy, his work in TB stands above almost any other coaching job ever.  There was no more pathetic organization in the history of the NFL, and he made them relevant almost singlehandedly.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Bill Polian also oversaw a team that went from 13-3 to 10-6 to 6-10 with a veteran Peyton Manning at the helm.  Dungy came in, immediately put them back in the playoffs, then rattled off 6 straight 12+ win seasons and a championship.  I think he deserves a good deal of the credit.

And regardless of Dungy's work in Indy, his work in TB stands above almost any other coaching job ever.  There was no more pathetic organization in the history of the NFL, and he made them relevant almost singlehandedly.

Agreed!

He wants to give credit to Gruden but non to Dungy?

[MikeO]

Sparano and Cowher have a similar outlook on the game.  Their conservative style is the same.  That is a apt comparison.

Crazy!! Cowher has been to numerous AFC Championship games. 2 Super Bowls. Won 1. And might go to the Hall of Fame as a coach.

Sparano has done nothing in his career and in 3 years as a head coach shown nothing at all. NOTHING!

Stop comparing the 2. It's like comparing John Beck to Dan Marino!! It's laughable!

[masterfins]

The thing about the Steelers is that they form their teams from the bottom up, meaning they get good lineman, which makes it easier for the RB's and QB to succeed.  I'd be curious to know just how much input Cowher had in player selection.  That said he is about the only person I would like to see replace Sparano at this point.

[tubba marxxx]

Crazy!! Cowher has been to numerous AFC Championship games. 2 Super Bowls. Won 1. And might go to the Hall of Fame as a coach.

Sparano has done nothing in his career and in 3 years as a head coach shown nothing at all. NOTHING!

Stop comparing the 2. It's like comparing John Beck to Dan Marino!! It's laughable!

Dude, Sparano took a 1 - 15 team to the playoffs..so don't say he hasn't done nothing..don't get pissy because it's hard times..

As far as Cowher is concerned, it’s history repeating itself my friends..once upon a time we had a coach by the name of Don Shula, perhaps you’ve heard of him?  Coached Miami for nearly 30 years..only to be RUN OUT OF MIAMI because Jimmy Johnson wanted to coach in Miami.  And because he had 3 ring to Shula’s 2, it happened.  Let’s ignore the fact that Jimmy Johnson was the most over-rated coach in the history of the NFL (Herschel Walker trade..enough said), now you’re going to run Sparano out of town because Cowher has a ring and Sparano doesn’t…a) I’m not comparing Sparano to Cowher..so don’t rape the keyboard just yet..and b) no one has head coached 2 different teams to Super Bowl victories, and that streak will continue. Why? Because if you don’t learn from history, you’re doomed to repeat it..it’s JJ all over again, awesome resume..retired once already..will coach for 2 or 3 years..and be over it again and go back in the booth talking doing what we do but on a much grander scale.  If a coaching change is going to be made (and I don’t think it needs to, but IF), then it needs to be for a dude who’s going to be the coach for a long time to come, and actually STICK with the god damn plan.  Miami needs consistency in the worst way . This constantly changing coaches thing is terrible, i.e. in the last 10 years for every QB change in Miami, an OC changed with it (more or less), and that affects the entire offense, between plays, audibles, etc. You can't expect production if you have to foget everything you learned the previous year..year in and year out

[Dave Gray]

Crazy!! Cowher has been to numerous AFC Championship games. 2 Super Bowls. Won 1. And might go to the Hall of Fame as a coach.

Sparano has done nothing in his career and in 3 years as a head coach shown nothing at all. NOTHING!

Stop comparing the 2. It's like comparing John Beck to Dan Marino!! It's laughable!

I am not saying that one is better than the other.  I'm saying that they have similar conservative styles.  ...which they do.


I could compare Beck and Marino by saying that they were both Dolphins quarterbacks.  ...which they were.  So that would also be true.  You see, that's how comparisons work.  Just because you say that two things have 1 similarity does not mean that they must also be similar in all other aspects.  Please tell me understand this basic thought process.

It's simple really.



Dave says: "Apples and Oranges are both fruit."
MikeO says "That's crazy! Apples are red!"

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Dave says: "Apples and Oranges are both fruit."
MikeO says "That's crazy! Apples are red!"

Sometimes they're yellow and green. 

[MikeO]

I am not saying that one is better than the other.  I'm saying that they have similar conservative styles.  ...which they do.

How is Bill Cowher conservative? Seriously. Just because he pounded the ball with Bettis all thsoe years doesn't mean he is conservative. It means hes smart cause he gave the ball to his best player and won games!