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« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2011, 05:53:00 pm »


I'm not jumping down on you just showing getting that QB isn't easy especially when you pick in the positions we usually do.  We missed on Matt Ryan but Jake Long is a great LT...  Matt Ryan can't save a team if he doesn't have a decent line..

Building an o-line is a lot easier than finding a quality QB. We missed the boat on Ryan. Huge mistake by the Fins front office
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« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2011, 06:11:59 pm »

Building an o-line is a lot easier than finding a quality QB. We missed the boat on Ryan. Huge mistake by the Fins front office

Very well could be but solid LT's are just like finding QB's...  If you have a Matt Ryan at QB and a Robert Gallery at LT you won't have your QB very long!
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« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2011, 06:16:05 pm »

Very well could be but solid LT's are just like finding QB's...  If you have a Matt Ryan at QB and a Robert Gallery at LT you won't have your QB very long!

No they aren't. QB's are 10X harder to find than left tackles

Considering Gallery is a guard in the NFL, yeah! I would agree with that
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« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2011, 06:51:45 pm »

No they aren't. QB's are 10X harder to find than left tackles

Considering Gallery is a guard in the NFL, yeah! I would agree with that

Started out a tackle was considered a bust there!  If I remember correctly...
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« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2011, 06:59:23 pm »

Started out a tackle was considered a bust there!  If I remember correctly...

Hasn't played LT since his rookie year. Doesn't prove the point that LT's are hard to find though
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« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2011, 02:45:11 pm »

Sounds great now only if it was that easy!!!

There have been many "big athletic Qb that can throw,run and read defenses or can learn to read defenses" in college... but, didn't translate to good NFL QB's

What you're saying is easy to say... But I don't see you naming anyone either?

I'm not jumping down on you just showing getting that QB isn't easy especially when you pick in the positions we usually do.  We missed on Matt Ryan but Jake Long is a great LT...  Matt Ryan can't save a team if he doesn't have a decent line..
I agree with what you're saying.It's not easy but if you keep on doing the same thing you get the same results.I know we can't get Luck but if somebody like Locker were available I'd take a shot especially in the later rounds. If you had someone like Locker in the first I'd pick him then. It doesn't have to be your stereotypical or the Qb the anylist say is the one. I never heard of Freeman for Tampa Bay before he got there.The truth is I don't know who is out there but that's what they pay the coaches and scouts for. That wildcat is played out ,if you want to do that get a Qb thats legit that can do both.Ronnie Brown is a running back!!!

If we don't go Qb I,m looking for dominant game changers on defense especially D-line , LB and safety's.I really like Fairley He's got an edge to his game. There are others out the coaches and scouts need to do a better job finding them. It seems like other teams can do it , they look at same players we do so why can't we do it too.Go Phins!
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« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2011, 02:52:21 pm »

I know we can't get Luck

Who knows where Miami will be sitting for the 2012 draft. I doubt they'll be a top-3 pick (which is where Luck will be next year), but hey...anything is possible.

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« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2011, 10:00:34 pm »

...Maybe V.Young, Maybe M.Leinart, i dunno, but i just dont think drafting a QB will solve the problem, by pick 15 the best will be gone. But there are alot of QB's that we can aquire through free agency, either way we need to improve our running game add some weapons and any QB will have a shot at being good, maybe even Henne could be the guy, maybe give him last shot at making it or getting rid of him since its his last year on his contract, but we need to upgrade RB's add a receiver, o-line....but a veteran QB wouldn't hurt if we can get one cheap. like McNabb, Kolb maybe
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« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2011, 07:05:02 am »

bad year to draft a QB. Because if the lockout goes into the summer. There might only be a 2 week or so training camp. And the QB would sit all year and not play due to not having any time to get adjusted to NFL play
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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2011, 03:02:04 pm »

...Maybe V.Young, Maybe M.Leinart,

You must be a Jets fan to wish these two plagues on Miami!!!!!!  Wink
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« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2011, 03:30:56 pm »

You must be a Jets fan to wish these two plagues on Miami!!!!!!  Wink

Wow, AZ that is some very narrow minded thinking.  I am shocked.  Just because someone holds the opinion the Dolphins should go after Young or Leinart doesn't automatically make them a Jets fan. 








Could be a Bills or Patriots fans. 
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« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2011, 03:49:22 pm »

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You are correct my friend I just assumed with all of the shit-talking coming out of the Jets coaches and players the last few days that it might have trickled down to the fanbase!!!!!!  Cheesy
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« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2011, 03:55:53 pm »

I don't know that bringing in Vince Young would be the worst thing in the world as long as he knows the job isn't his, he has to compete with whomever else Miami brings in.  It should also be a fairly short contract like 1 or 2 years.

If you did that, I wouldn't have a problem with seeing what Young offers if anything.  Competition might be good for both Young and Henne.  Young's issues have mostly been one of maturity.  Maybe getting shipped out of Tennessee and sent to Miami as a possible backup to Henne will be a bit of a wake up call to him that his days of flying off the handle will not be tolerated.  Probably not, but I don't think it would hurt to try.

And Henne certainly could use someone to push him on the field.  If it all goes bad you simply cut ties with Young.  The risk is probably worth the reward if done right.
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« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2011, 05:54:25 pm »

Leinart sucks.

But Vince Young can play a bit. He was young and put himself in bad situations. Put him on a new team in a new city, with new teammates and coaches.... I'm not saying he is the 2nd coming. But he might be decent to above average!  And considering you give up NO draft picks to get him, it's worth a shot. Nothing to lose, everything to gain. And if he sucks, cut him and move on!
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« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2011, 07:28:11 pm »

I don't know that bringing in Vince Young would be the worst thing in the world as long as he knows the job isn't his, he has to compete with whomever else Miami brings in.  It should also be a fairly short contract like 1 or 2 years.

If you did that, I wouldn't have a problem with seeing what Young offers if anything.  Competition might be good for both Young and Henne.  Young's issues have mostly been one of maturity.  Maybe getting shipped out of Tennessee and sent to Miami as a possible backup to Henne will be a bit of a wake up call to him that his days of flying off the handle will not be tolerated.  Probably not, but I don't think it would hurt to try.

And Henne certainly could use someone to push him on the field.  If it all goes bad you simply cut ties with Young.  The risk is probably worth the reward if done right.

This is what I was trying to say when I bought up Young before in other threads as well...

I think you have to at least give it a look... Hell bring in Young and McNabb and let Henne and them battle it out.  McNabb and Young can be had fairly cheap with maybe Young sitting behind McNabb for a year or two and maturing?
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