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Question: Of the last 10 1st round picks of the Miami Dolphins, which one was the worst?
Yatil Green (WR, 1997) - Pick #15
John Avery (RB, 1998) - Pick #29
Jamar Fletcher (CB, 2001) - Pick #26
Vernon Carey (OT, 2004) - Pick #19
Ronnie Brown (RB, 2005) - Pick #2
Jason Allen (CB, 2006) - Pick #16
Ted Ginn, Jr. (WR, 2007) - Pick #9
Jake Long (OT, 2008) - Pick #1
Vontae Davis (CB, 2009) - Pick #25
Jared Odrick (DT, 2010) - Pick #28

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« on: January 17, 2011, 08:30:09 am »

Give us a vote and then give us some explanation as to why.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 08:42:10 am »

I voted for Ronnie Brown.

At a time where the Dolphins were incredibly desperate for structure and talented bodies, they selected a running back with the 2nd overall pick. A draft that included Aaron Rodgers, mind you. Roddy White, Heath Miller, Demarcus Ware, and Logan Mankins were also in this draft class and taken in the first round, yet the Dolphins took Ronnie freaking Brown from Auburn, and who wasn't even the top man (Cadillac Williams).

In 5 NFL seasons, he rushed for 1,000 only once (and he barely did it - 1,008 in 2006) and had 10 TDs in 2008. Other than that, his statistics are highly mediocre, and I would argue that his 1,008 yards in '06 and his 10 TD's in '08 aren't anything to write home about either. He's also had 3 season-ending injuries - for a running back, that's catastrophic.

To pile on, I can't recall 1 play that Ronnie Brown has ever had that has either changed the course of a game or won the Dolphins the game. He doesn't make SportsCenter type plays, he makes very few big plays, and he's injury prone.

For a late-round draft pick, that's OK. For a 2nd round pick, that's disappointing. For a 1st round pick, that means that you ruined your draft. How magnified is that when you're the 2nd overall pick in the entire draft?
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2011, 09:16:50 am »

I voted for Ronnie Brown.

At a time where the Dolphins were incredibly desperate for structure and talented bodies, they selected a running back with the 2nd overall pick. A draft that included Aaron Rodgers, mind you. Roddy White, Heath Miller, Demarcus Ware, and Logan Mankins were also in this draft class and taken in the first round

You were golden until you included Heath Miller in that group... It's like saying "You could have had a sports car like a Ferrari, Jaguar, Lotus, Hyundai, Porsche or Lamborghini."

My vote is for the Ginn family...totally worthless pick.

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2011, 09:32:18 am »

Verdict still out on Odrick and Davis. Ginn at least gave us some spectacular returns. Yatil Green gave us nothing. 10 knee surgeries in 3 years... a grand total of 18 receptions and 0 touchdowns.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 10:00:32 am »

As bad as some of the picks have been, I've always thought we got the least out of the Green pick.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 10:38:57 am »

John Avery.  Not only did he wash out of the league in very short order, but the Dolphins made an (alleged) pre-draft trade-down from 18 (I think) in order to get him.  In the meantime, a super talented malcontent named Randy Moss fell to Minnesota.  Miami could've paired Marino with Moss for at least two seasons, but instead got Avery and his video game addiction.  Bad times.

Green comes in second, but what can you do?  He got hurt.  He might've been good.

Ronnie Brown belongs nowhere on this list, because as mediocre as he's been, he's also been one of Miami's best offensive players when healthy.  That may speak to the lack of talent on Miami's offense, sure, but he and Ricky have pretty much been it.  (I can't wait for the Pats to pick him up and unleash him on us in some way that our coaches never cared to do.  I can feel this coming...)
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 11:41:16 am »

The truly sad thing is that this was a tough choice, with several possible good answers.

I ended up going with Ginn Jr, because I thought he was the biggest bust compared to the spot he was taken.  With the #9 pick he should have been so much better.  Avery was a bust too, but much further down in the draft.

I didn't pick Green because I don't count injuries against you.  It's not his fault that he was injury prone.  I felt sorry for the guy.

And for those of you picking Ronnie, I just don't see it.  No, he's never been an explosive back and yeah as the #2 pick in the draft he hasn't lived up to expectations, but he's been good at least.  Ginn at #9 has never even come close to being average let along good.  He's had about 4 nice returns in his career and that's it, absolutely nothing from the WR position.  Ronnie at least was a workhorse for years and while he's unspectacular, he was near the top in average yards per attempt for a couple years which is pretty amazing considering that he never breaks a long run.  You couldn't count on him for a sportscenter highlight, but he was good at getting 4 or 5 tough yards when there wasn't much there.  His total numbers would have looked a lot better if he could have stayed healthy, which again I don't count against him.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 11:45:11 am »

Jamar Fletcher.  And here's why. 

Drew Brees was still on the board.   

If ever there was a defining moment in the last 10 years for this franchise, that had to be it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2011, 12:00:54 pm »

I picked Fletcher, as well.  It's one of those picks that not only didn't work out, but even if it did work out, what did you get?  Yeah, Drew Brees was on board, but more importantly, we already had Patrick Surtain AND Sam Madison at Corner.  You were picking in your greatest strength area in the first round.  It just didn't make a lick of sense.  On top of it, the guy couldn't play.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 12:18:18 pm »

I admit, I hate these threads, because
 a.) Hindsight is always 20/20
 b.) too many people want to bring up...So,and so was still there,and we should have taken him.The problem is ...Blank...  might not be,the the guy he is now, if he would have played for the Dolphins,in our system,with our players,coaching staff,etc,etc.

Things like Dave mentioned, I can understand....

The Ronnie pick I can understand, We needed to build around,a guy that would play immediately (make the quickest impact),and most of that first round stunk....

I took Ginn, 9th over all for a kick returner...Honestly, I think he'd be best served playing on Turf,or a team that has a dome,off the top of my head,he had 2 td's @ the Jets (with the Dolphins),and one in the dome in St. louis this year.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2011, 12:35:55 pm »

I couldn't pick Ginn because of two things:

1) He single-handedly won a game for us against our division rival, the Jets.
2) We got SOME trade value from him.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2011, 01:24:13 pm »

I couldn't pick Ginn because of two things:

1) He single-handedly won a game for us against our division rival, the Jets.
2) We got SOME trade value from him.
Well I don't think he did it single-handedly, there were 10 guys on the field blocking for him.  And 1 great game out of 48 isn't that great for the #9 pick in the draft.

I could have forgiven him if he just wasn't that great of a receiver, but what I hated about him was his total lack of commitment to the team.  Running out of bounds whenever someone would get within 10 yards of him, having crocodile arms whenever a DB was in the area.  He never seemed to work hard at his profession and that I can't forgive.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 01:32:08 pm »

I wish I had two votes.  I'd take Fletcher and Ginn; but since I only get 1 pick, I'm going with Ginn. 

My primary reason is that he was taken with a top 10 pick, and even with my limited football knowledge, it seemed liked a terrible choice (too high, he was injured, he didn't have good hands or run good routes). 
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 02:28:04 pm »

Add another vote for Ginn and his family. WR picked 9th for a team that badly needed a receiver and the dude couldn't catch a cold. I did like his return game.....when we let him return but a #9 pick is too high for a returner!!!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 03:07:55 pm »

I see a lot of votes for Green, but although it turned out bad, I don't think it was all that foreseeable.  His problem was injury.  He just couldn't stay healthy.  Unlike Ginn and Fletcher, the Yatil pick was sound in principle.
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