Worst 1st Round Pick of last 10?

[tepop84]

Ronnie brown made a ton more money that ginn and he wasn't very productive either.

[dolphins4life]

Jamar Fletcher.

The guy cost us 2002 almost single-handedly, as Brian once pointed out.         

[Dave Gray]

Ronnie brown made a ton more money that ginn and he wasn't very productive either.

Ronnie Brown can't even be in the conversation, I don't think.  He didn't live up to expectations, but he ran the wildcat very successfully for 1 year.  He also made the Pro Bowl.  It might not be the best thing ever, but a Pro Bowl selection is miles and miles ahead of the other busts we're talking about.

As much as you hate Brown, he's still been our starting RB since being selected.  He gave us playing time, at the very least.

[tepop84]

His pro bowl selection was a joke.  Ted ginn was just as serviceable as ronnie brown, but he got paid a ton less money and was 7 picks later.

Lets look at ronnie's pro bowl sham.  He was 19th in rushing yards, T8th in touchdowns (mostly cause he got all the goalline carries), 16th in ypc, and 24th in yards per game.  This was his best season, and those are his stats.  He is a huge bust.

[Jim Gray]

Ted ginn was just as serviceable as ronnie brown

Ridiculous. 
You seem to lock in on players and coaches that you hate and once on the tepop shit list, your assessment of their performance is skewed to only consider the negative.  It's very hard for me to take your comments seriously given the statement you made above.

[tepop84]

Ridiculous. 
You seem to lock in on players and coaches that you hate and once on the tepop shit list, your assessment of their performance is skewed to only consider the negative.  It's very hard for me to take your comments seriously given the statement you made above.

907, 1008, 602, 916, 648, 734. how long do you think a running back who wasn't drafted number 2 overall with those yearly rushing totals would stay on the team.

[Pappy13]

Lets look at ronnie's pro bowl sham.  He was 19th in rushing yards, T8th in touchdowns (mostly cause he got all the goalline carries), 16th in ypc, and 24th in yards per game.

All while splitting carries with Ricky Williams.  All but YPC would have been much higher had he been given the bulk of the work load.

Tedd Ginn never sniffed the jock strap of a pro-bowler.

[Jim Gray]

907, 1008, 602, 916, 648, 734. how long do you think a running back who wasn't drafted number 2 overall with those yearly rushing totals would stay on the team.

I think your logic is faulty.  Since he was drafted with a high pick, he makes a lot of money.  If he was no good, he wouldn't have been paid for 6 years at this high rate.  You also conveniently leave out that his numbers were the result of injuries and splitting time with another back.   I would say that overall, Brown hasn't lived up to expectations, but to say that he is the biggest draft bust in Dolphin history is just foolish.  

If Miami doesn't resign Brown this off season, do you think another team will pick him up?  If you answer "yes", doesn't that pretty much invalidate your argument.  

[tepop84]

I think your logic is faulty.  Since he was drafted with a high pick, he makes a lot of money.  If he was no good, he wouldn't have been paid for 6 years at this high rate.  You also conveniently leave out that his numbers were the result of injuries and splitting time with another back.   I would say that overall, Brown hasn't lived up to expectations, but to say that he is the biggest draft bust in Dolphin history is just foolish.  

If Miami doesn't resign Brown this off season, do you think another team will pick him up?  If you answer "yes", doesn't that pretty much invalidate your argument.  

He wasn't cut because of the ridiculous cap hit the dolphins would have had to take.  He was splitting carries because he isn't good enough to justify giving all the carries to, and he isn't strong enough to carry the who load himself.

I don't think he is the biggest bust on this list, I think it is ridiculous that people are putting ted ginn down and ignoring brown, who was just as bad as ginn.

[Pappy13]

I don't think he is the biggest bust on this list

So who is?

[Thundergod]

Damn, this is a tough one. But in the end I have to go with Ted Ginn (explanation already given in earlier posts).  As much as I agree with Tepop on Brown, he was still servicable/ok. Really didn't equate to an absolute bust.

[Spider-Dan]

Man, looking through this list shows me one thing in particular:

In the early years of those picks, there was practically NOTHING available at that position.

The only WR available in '97 that made a Pro Bowl in his career was Derrick Mason (taken in round 4, so an incredible reach at #15 overall).
The only RB available in '97 that made a Pro Bowl in his career was Ahman Green, taken in the 3rd round (also a reach).
No available CB in '01 made the Pro Bowl in his career.

Still, I'm going to go with Jamar Fletcher.  We already had Madison and Surtain on the team and Madison was coming off of two straight first-team All-Pro seasons.  Furthermore, our first two picks were Jamar Fletcher and Chris Chambers; we could have used those two picks on Reggie Wayne and Adrian Wilson.

Every other player in the poll (save Odrick, who got injured) actually brought some value to the team at one point, so I can't pick them.

P.S. Drew Brees is a pipe dream; MIA would have ran him out of town in exactly the same fashion that SD did, provided that he was even able to beat Fiedler and get on the field (which I consider unlikely).

[Spider-Dan]

His pro bowl selection was a joke.  Ted ginn was just as serviceable as ronnie brown, but he got paid a ton less money and was 7 picks later.

Lets look at ronnie's pro bowl sham.  He was 19th in rushing yards, T8th in touchdowns (mostly cause he got all the goalline carries), 16th in ypc, and 24th in yards per game.  This was his best season, and those are his stats.

He's also responsible for being the triggerman of an offense that most of the teams in the league have tried to copy.

Sorry, your undying hatred of Ronnie Brown has blinded you.  I know you'd like to pretend that his Pro Bowl selection never happened, but it did.  And he certainly didn't make it on name recognition 3 years after being drafted.

His Pro Bowl selection elevates him above nearly everyone else on this list; facts are facts.  Comparing statistics is a rather absurd move on your part... which statistics of Ginn's are we supposed to be impressed by?  Ginn was far worse than Ronnie, and consistently crapped the bed when given an opportunity to make a play.  Ronnie may not have been spectacular very often, but his Wildcat game against NE was better than Ginn's against the Jets, and if you take away both of those games (and the '09 orange jersey game in which they both played well), Ginn did nothing but drop balls and cause interceptions.  If Ginn were to have played at a mediocre level (which is about the worst you can say for Ronnie, splitting carries), it would have been a MASSIVE upgrade.  Greg Camarillo CLEARLY outplayed Ted Ginn in his time here.

[CF DolFan]

I have to go with Yatil Green or even a John Avery. Ginn did makes some plays and even made ST coaches have to account for him. Many of the others never made a difference to anyone.

[Brian Fein]

Ted Ginn is the "sexy" pick cause he's recent and tied to 1-15.  He's not the biggest bust.

Dave hit the nail on the head.  Jamar Fletcher was drafted as a nickel corner at the strongest position, at a time when the team was good but there were a ton of other needs.  That draft was the turning point for the Dolphins. 

Of course hindsight is 20/20 but with a QB named Fiedler and a guy named Brees available, how do you take Fletcher?  Even his college "highlight reel" showed him getting beat on man coverage. 

And even if its not Brees, the other talent on the board at the time could have helped put the Dolphins over the edge:
Michael Bennett, Reggie Wayne, Todd Heap, Drew Brees, Alge Crumpler, Chad Johnson, Kendrell Bell, Robert Ferguson, Kris Jenkins, Matt Light...

Jamar Fletcher may have set the team back 10 years.