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Question: Of the last 10 1st round picks of the Miami Dolphins, which one was the worst?
Yatil Green (WR, 1997) - Pick #15
John Avery (RB, 1998) - Pick #29
Jamar Fletcher (CB, 2001) - Pick #26
Vernon Carey (OT, 2004) - Pick #19
Ronnie Brown (RB, 2005) - Pick #2
Jason Allen (CB, 2006) - Pick #16
Ted Ginn, Jr. (WR, 2007) - Pick #9
Jake Long (OT, 2008) - Pick #1
Vontae Davis (CB, 2009) - Pick #25
Jared Odrick (DT, 2010) - Pick #28

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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2011, 02:20:35 pm »

^^ Well I guess it becomes a question of whether your talking about the player or the pick being the worst.  It sounds like you're saying that the pick was the worst because we didn't really need him and he didn't contribute.  I was only looking at it from the standpoint of the player's impact compared to where they were drafted.  I wasn't considering whether or not I thought the choice of the player was the right one or not.
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2011, 02:26:06 pm »

^^ you raise a good point...

But, even still, I don't think Ted Ginn was the worst PLAYER on that list.  He had issues with focus, suspect-to-terrible hands, but had speed for days, and had above-average skills in the return game.  Plus, I'll never forget the play where he beat Revis on a bomb for a TD on Sunday night.

Jamar Fletcher NEVER made a single play, and you only heard his name when he blew a coverage.
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2011, 04:09:44 pm »

set the franchise back ten years. Give me a fucking break. Lol.
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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2011, 05:17:25 pm »

Jamar Fletcher NEVER made a single play, and you only heard his name when he blew a coverage.
Jamar Fletcher was also taken 26th, whereas Ginn was taken 9th.  I guess I just expected more from Ginn. 

And it's not entirely true to say Fletcher never made a play.  He is in fact credited with 10 passes defensed, 2 picks and 55 tackles as a Dolphin in 3 years.  It's not much, but is it less than what Ginn accomplished from the 9th slot in the draft?  It's a tough call no question, I said initially there were several good candidates which is the really sad thing.
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2011, 05:40:21 pm »

Making my pick based on how much production the Team received from the player, my pick would be Green.  If you want to exclude him because of injuries, and pick based on onfield play my choice would be Ginn.

As for Ronnie, he wasn't deserving of an overall #2, but that's where the Fins pick was so I'm okay with it.
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2011, 06:36:56 pm »

The thing about Ginn is also this:

I AGREE IT WAS A TERRIBLE PICK.

But, we did need a receiver.  We didn't need an undersized speedster with bad hands (especially at 9 overall), but we did need to fill a slot at that position.

That's why the Fletcher pick baffled me so much.  Even if he'd turned out to be a really good player, he wouldn't have made an impact for several years, because we had two Pro Bowlers at the starting spots.  I remember hearing them call out his name (I was listening to the radio) and being completely baffled.
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2011, 07:04:37 pm »

Here's the thing:

On Avery we obviously needed WR help, and there was a monster available in Moss.  I remember thinking a slow motion "Noooooooo!" as the Dolphins drafted down and again as they picked.  I felt the same way about Fletcher, and then again as Peyton Manning pumped his fist with happiness as the Colts drafted Wayne.

I specifically remember knowing that both of these picks were terrible mistakes as the picks were made.  I am no NFL genius, but I knew, in my soul, that Moss and Wayne would be great WRs (I knew Andre Johnson would be, too.  That kind of talent is just that obvious).

If my dumb ass can tell a guy's going to flop, and there's an infinitely better option available, then that pick is in the running.
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2011, 11:06:01 pm »

^ Moss was a easy guy to pass over.  A ton of other teams did, as well.  He was a headcase and disciplinary problems were what turned people off.  It wasn't a question of his talents.  I think that it's hard to look back on that decision as bad, since we have access to the results.
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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2011, 10:36:40 am »

^^^Yes and no.  He was (and is) a headcase, but the talent was stratospheric.  Kind of like when Warren Sapp fell 12 spots because of a failed drug test for pot.  Seriously?  Pot?  Moss was known as enigmatic, but not as an overall "bad guy".  Just as this past offseason most of us could look past Dez Bryant's "character issues" to see amazing talent, I could see past Moss' as well.

Again, I use that example because at the time, even dumb-ass old me knew the team was screwing the pooch, so to speak.  If it's obvious to me at the time, then this is a mistake.  If Merling doesn't pan out, I say too bad.  I wanted Calais Campbell instead, but was OK that the Dolphins went with Merling.  I was NOT OK that the Dolphins passed on Moss.  I was not OK that the Dolphins passed on Wayne.  To an extent, I was not OK that the Dolphins passed on Wilfork to get Carey.  Were I a Lions fan, I would've been freaking out that the team chose Charles Rogers over Andre Johnson.  I just KNEW in my sould that these guys were better (while I'm on the 'Canes, I knew Ed Reed would be better than Roy Williams - the safety -, knew Edgerrin James was better than Ricky Williams, and knew Clinton Portis was better than William Green).  Sometimes you just know...
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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2011, 11:51:17 am »

While Reggie Wayne is a stud WR, I wonder if he would still be as highly regarded if Jay Fielder was his QB instead of Peyton.  Similarly, maybe Chris Chambers would have been a stud if he were drafted by the Colts.

I'm starting to think the team is poison and ruins good players...
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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2011, 04:55:22 pm »

Green is the only one in the ROD
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