Blaine Gabbert and 2011 draft.

[MikeO]

I didn't know accuracy was easily correctable. The knock on him is his accuracy from what I know.

Pocket awarness is the big knock on him according to Mayock who seems to peg these guys pretty well

[MikeO]

From what I've seen, Mallett is a choker (although to be fair, Peyton was just as bad in college).

He had Arkansas from the SEC in a BCS bowl. I wouldn't call that choking. Plus he is coming from a Pro Style offense in college. Something alot of these guys haven't played in before

[Spider-Dan]

He had Arkansas from the SEC in a BCS bowl. I wouldn't call that choking.

One has nothing to do with the other.  (I notice that the result of said bowl is conspicuously absent.)

He had Alabama dead-to-rights (with a 20-7 lead at home) and threw the game away, sealing the loss with 2 INTs in the last 5 min (and not 4th down "prayer" INTs, either).

Yeah, he beat Tennessee Tech 44-3, and UTEP 58-21, and Vanderbilt 49-14.   That's great and all, but ending your last two drives with INTs when you have a lead, at home, against the defending national champions who are ranked #1 in the nation?  Chokeville.

[MikeO]

Losing a Bowl game to Ohio St where his WR's dropped a ton of passes isn't on him.

So he played a bad game vs a team that is probably the most talented in the country and that makes him a "choker"....unfriggin real. He still played in the SEC and won big games there against the best of the best of college football!!! You can't knock someone who won in the SEC

[MikeO]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81eb70a5/article/defensive-line-leads-the-way-on-list-of-top-32-prospects

Mike Mayock's Top 32

[StL FinFan]

^ He has Gabbert at #5, Locker at #20, Newton at #21 and Mallet not even in the top 32.

If you were trying to defend Mallet, you did just the opposite.

[MikeO]

^ He has Gabbert at #5, Locker at #20, Newton at #21 and Mallet not even in the top 32.

If you were trying to defend Mallet, you did just the opposite.

It's my OPINION!! Im not trying to defend anything. This isn't a court of law. Tom Brady went in Rd 6 was he in anyones Top 32 that year??? So if a guy (ie Mallet ) in ONE GUYS rankings isn't in the Top 32 that means he can't play?? Give me a break.

I would rather have Mallett over Newton, I don't care where they rank Newton. Ang Gabbert is coming from a spread offense (ie Pat White).....been there, done that! Give me Mallett over those 2 anyday. That's me!   

[Tenshot13]

Err...ahem...I agree with MikeO.

[Spider-Dan]

Losing a Bowl game to Ohio St where his WR's dropped a ton of passes isn't on him.

Wait... are you saying that if a QB's receivers drop a bunch of balls, the QB is blameless for the loss?  I just want to get this on record.

You may recall that Arkansas' last possession in that particular game was not ended by a dropped pass, but rather by an INT thrown by Mallett...  after his special teams unit blocked a punt and handed him the ball in OSU's red zone, down by 5.

But throwing a game-ending interception to a Big 10 team still doesn't count, right?

So he played a bad game vs a team that is probably the most talented in the country and that makes him a "choker"....unfriggin real.

Alabama is the most talented team in the country?  The same Alabama that had three losses?  How does that work?

P.S. If you are having a discussion about the draft and you feel the need to reach for Tom Brady's draft position to bolster your argument, you almost certainly have nothing of value to add.  No team, ever, should plan their draft around where Tom Brady was selected, and anyone who claims otherwise is an idiot.

[MikeO]

P.S. If you are having a discussion about the draft and you feel the need to reach for Tom Brady's draft position to bolster your argument, you almost certainly have nothing of value to add.  No team, ever, should plan their draft around where Tom Brady was selected, and anyone who claims otherwise is an idiot.

WHY!! That is what EVERYONE on this board does! I just figured I would join the party!

[StL FinFan]

It's my OPINION!! Im not trying to defend anything. This isn't a court of law. Tom Brady went in Rd 6 was he in anyones Top 32 that year??? So if a guy (ie Mallet ) in ONE GUYS rankings isn't in the Top 32 that means he can't play?? Give me a break.

I would rather have Mallett over Newton, I don't care where they rank Newton. Ang Gabbert is coming from a spread offense (ie Pat White).....been there, done that! Give me Mallett over those 2 anyday. That's me!   

I was just trying to figure out your reason for posting that link.
I would also like to point out that just because Pat White came from a spread offense and did not make it in the NFL, does not rule out the possibly of a spread offense QB making it in the future.  The reasons are more numerous and complex than the type of offense he played in college.  I would not dismiss anyone out of hand for that reason only.

Modified to add: If you have more reasons as to why you feel the individuals in the draft who have played a spread offense in college would not be a good fit for the Dolphins, I would be interested in hearing them.

[Spider-Dan]

So to clarify, MikeO:

If a QB's receivers drop a bunch of his passes, is he blameless if they lose?

[MikeO]

So to clarify, MikeO:

If a QB's receivers drop a bunch of his passes, is he blameless if they lose?

NO! But you are making these vast jumps of..."since "A" then "B"". Mallett had a bad game vs Alabama. He lost in the Sugar Bowl. That doesn't mean he won't be a good pro! That's silly. That is what you are saying.

In the Sugar Bowl the Arkansas WR's dropped a ton of passes! I don't put that loss al on Mallett. That is a crazy thing to say. Sure he threw an INT late, but so what. I don't pin that loss all on his shoulders! And one bad game vs Alabama also doesn't mean he won't be a good pro. That's laughable!

[MikeO]

Modified to add: If you have more reasons as to why you feel the individuals in the draft who have played a spread offense in college would not be a good fit for the Dolphins, I would be interested in hearing them.

Look at the QB's that have won recent Super Bowls......Brees, Manning, Brady, Eli, Rodgers, Big Ben. How many came from a spread offense?!  Look at the OTHER successful QB's in the league RIGHT NOW, Rivers, Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan, Schaub, Cutler. SEE ANY SPREAD OFFENSE GUYS THERE???

Game. Set. Match.

[Spider-Dan]

In Mallett's two biggest games of the year (in fact, the two biggest games of his college career), he ended the game by throwing INTs... one by throwing INTs on back-to-back possessions.  That is choking.