Chad Henne better than you think?

[fyo]

I'm more convinced than ever that the reason some teams never seem to get a good qb (and always flub on the ones they pick high) is that they don't have the organization and coaching required to develop a college quarterback into an NFL starter...

[dolfan13]

i don't think its development, rather having a personnel department that knows how to identify nfl starting quarterbacks. some organizations have folks in place that have much better instincts as to who has what it takes to be a starter and who doesn't.

[masterfins]

i don't think its development, rather having a personnel department that knows how to identify nfl starting quarterbacks. some organizations have folks in place that have much better instincts as to who has what it takes to be a starter and who doesn't.

While I'd agree that some organizations have better talent evaluaters than others, to try and make the point that that's the reason Miami, or other NFL teams, don't have great NFL starting QB's is just wrong.  There are maybe 5-8 steallar QB's in the NFL now (most of which have been in the league several years).  Most of those 5-8 QB's took development time to get where they are now.  Reality is it's a good year if there are 2 QB's that come out of college to become great starting QB's.  Then..you have to hope that your team is in the right spot to draft them.

[masterfins]

I've been reluctant to bring it up for a couple different reasons (although probably mainly because "the haters" would never change their minds).

You were so right not to bring it up!! Lol

[dolfan13]

While I'd agree that some organizations have better talent evaluaters than others, to try and make the point that that's the reason Miami, or other NFL teams, don't have great NFL starting QB's is just wrong.  There are maybe 5-8 steallar QB's in the NFL now (most of which have been in the league several years).  Most of those 5-8 QB's took development time to get where they are now.  Reality is it's a good year if there are 2 QB's that come out of college to become great starting QB's.  Then..you have to hope that your team is in the right spot to draft them.

the dolphins have been a mediocre to bad organization for more than the past decade almost exclusively because of bad personnel decisions. the quarterback position is the poster child for this.

at most in every draft class there are 2-3 qb's that even have a chance to become quality starters. the rest, no matter how good your coaches, will never develop into anything. its not an exact science, and some organizations have better instincts in identifying this very select number that can actually be starters.

[shamrock]

I'll trade ya Jay Cutler for him,lol.

[dolfan13]

fans put way too much stock into coaching...

the real difference maker in terms of successful franchises are the pioli's, polian's, thompson's, wolf's, demitrioff's, heckert jr's, newsome's,etc... guys that for some reason consistently seem to be better evaluators of talent than their peers. and specially adept at identifying the qualities of good quarterbacks.

[Pappy13]

-Gabbert will go in the top 10
-Newton may drop out of the top 10 because his work ethic
-Said he wouldn't touch Mallet in the 1st round
-Jake Locker is  a QB that he likes alot and who is faster than Cam Newton,
-Chad Henne will never be anything more than a backup QB in this league.

Well he's wrong about Chad Henne seeing as how he's been the starter for Miami the last 2 years.  That doesn't exactly say much about his ability to assess QB's now does it. LOL

[MikeO]

Well he's wrong about Chad Henne seeing as how he's been the starter for Miami the last 2 years.  That doesn't exactly say much about his ability to assess QB's now does it. LOL

He's saying that abotu Henne after watching him play for 2 seasons 

[Pappy13]

^^ All the MORE reason to question his assessment.  He's ALREADY been a starter for 2 years, so him saying he'll NEVER be anything more than a backup is about the stupidest thing he's EVER said.

[MikeO]

^^ All the MORE reason to question his assessment.  He's ALREADY been a starter for 2 years, so him saying he'll NEVER be anything more than a backup is about the stupidest thing he's EVER said.

He isn't anything more than a backup probably from this point forward. That is the point!! 2 years as a starter and he has been a poor QB at best. It's a fair and honest assesment of Henne.

And Im a Henne fan and was a big Henne supporter, but the facts are what the facts are

[badger6]

He isn't anything more than a backup probably from this point forward. That is the point!! 2 years as a starter and he has been a poor QB at best. It's a fair and honest assesment of Henne.

And Im a Henne fan and was a big Henne supporter, but the facts are what the facts are

After all these years with shit QBs I wish as much as anyone here that the Henne experiment would have worked out. But time has come to move on, he hasn't worked out and won't work out in the future.

[MikeO]

^^^^agree. And Im not saying throw Henne to the curb. Keep him as a viable #2. As a #2 he is great. And maybe something clicks in his head over time and he can be a viable #1, but right now he is nothing more than a back-up QB in this league with a dim future of being anything more than that.

[dolfan13]

henne has rocks for brains... on the verge of an players lockout, given strict guidance from the league not to be studying playbooks and having offensive meetings, what does he do? just basically brag to anyone and everyone that he has had a month of studying the playbook with the new o coordinator and meetings with the new qb coach.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

henne has rocks for brains... on the verge of an players lockout, given strict guidance from the league not to be studying playbooks and having offensive meetings, what does he do? just basically brag to anyone and everyone that he has had a month of studying the playbook with the new o coordinator and meetings with the new qb coach.

So it is a bad thing that a player is more concerned with improving his skills and being ready to be competitive when the season starts than he is concerned with the labor politics? 

I would say he has his priorities correct.