Please, STFU about the Quarterback position

[MikeO]

So MikeO's point is such an established, well-proven tenet of the National Football League that... it falls apart when applied less than ten years ago.  Got it.

If you are talking about "a long time ago by NFL standards," at least have the decency to be referring to the pre-salary cap era.  Otherwise, you're using time as a crutch, solely because you know your claim does not stand up to historical scrutiny (and in the case of Sanchez and Cutler, it doesn't even stand up to today's scrutiny).

So you want your favorite team to have a crappy or poor QB and don't feel the need to upgrade or feel its a top priority. Thats your point then if you don't agree with me...  you are really showing off your football knowledge there!! Spider-Dan is for bad QB play and isn't worried! ha ha It's amazing!

[Pappy13]

...played in a league with different set of rules for the most part.

Which rule changes in the last 10 years are you referring to? I contend the rules are pretty much the same today as they were 10 years ago. There's a few rules that have been enforced to prevent injuries, but nothing that I can think of that would impact the game so greatly as to make it a different game today then of 10 years ago.

You wouldn't happen to have any evidence of this drastic change in the last 10 years would you?

[Tenshot13]

Exactly.  I never took a stance to begin with (hell I might actually agree with you to a point), but when you call some one dumb and you type something that makes you look dumb in the same sentence, I'm going to point it out.

[Spider-Dan]

So you want your favorite team to have a crappy or poor QB and don't feel the need to upgrade or feel its a top priority.

No, I think when you say "You must have GREAT QUARTERBACK PLAY to win in this league... that's why the Jets have done well!" you have just invalidated your own point.

Going off of any metric but wins, Sanchez has been average to below-average.  And using the metric of wins to explain why he is winning is circular logic.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Not at all. It's the opposite actually but your too dumb to understand my entire point and follow this conversation. Marino (a truly great QB) carried his teams in the playoffs damn near every year. Johnson on the other hand couldn't.

Yet you also assert that Sanchez is carrying his team to playoffs.  As if we were to put Henne on the Jets and Sanchez on the Dolphins,  the Jets would be 7-9 and the Dolphins would be playing in the AFCCG.

I contend if you put Sanchez on the Dolphins they are still a mediocre team and you could have put Henne or even Jamacus Russell on the squad the Jets had last year and they would have been contenders. 

[bsfins]

^^ Yet not forget the Jets running game in 2009 was #1 in the league in rushing yards per game172.2 yards per game,and #4 in 2010 148.4 ypg...Total defense the Jets were #1 in 2009,and #3 in 2010..But hey who's arguing stats?

[Brian Fein]

^^^^^ Thanks B!

You don't need a great QB to win, as long as you have a dominant defense.  This is a FACT, not up for debate. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^ Yet not forget the Jets running game in 2009 was #1 in the league in rushing yards per game172.2 yards per game,and #4 in 2010 148.4 ypg...Total defense the Jets were #1 in 2009,and #3 in 2010..But hey who's arguing stats?

I am sure MikeO can explain this.....

The only reason why the Jets running game was effective was defenses feared the mighty Dirty Sanchez.  It is well known fact that teams game planned to stop Mark.  Teams would not even attempt stop Jets the running game focusing solely and preventing the pass.  Mark's down field threat was what made LdT so effective.  

[dolfan13]

just getting to the afc championship versus winning the super bowl are in 2 different stratospheres. the jets are blowhards, who haven't won a damn thing. in both championship games, the team with the better qb beat them.

the dolphins need a hell of a lot better qb to even get to the playoffs, much less think about being super bowl contenders.

at this point the dolphins need to get away from spending first round draft picks on running backs, and swing for the fences. find a difference maker that can actually be a franchise qb to build around. draft mallet, pick up a veteran free agent qb, and cut their losses with the clueless, interception machine henne.