Brandon Marshall STABBED by woman; in hospital

[MikeO]

BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND....

On a football note, Marshall is 1 strike away from a 1 year suspension under the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy. IF anything of any sort comes out that he was the least bit responsible for starting the incident or laying his hands on her, he will be gone for this upcoming season or the next 16 regular season games if this year is shortened.

I fully believe Miami might very well cut him if they get info he was at any fault in this. Free up cap space and get out of this mess only out $3 mill and a 2nd round pick.

[Pappy13]

There is  an ignore feature here on this message board. I suggest you take advantage of it then!  

It doesn't work. I tried it a long time ago.

[Spider-Dan]

Uh, he got rid of him in the middle of last season.

He didn't "get rid of him" (in the same sense that you are saying we should get rid of Marshall).  He traded him (and a 7th) for a 3rd-round pick.  And this is after 3+ years on NE (during which Moss set the single-season record for receiving TDs) and at the end of a significant statistical decline.

When you imply that we should "get rid of Marshall just like Belichick would," do you actually mean "hold on to him for long enough to set records, then trade him at the end of his contract for a third-round pick"?  If so, then that's an awesome idea.

[MikeO]

He didn't "get rid of him" (in the same sense that you are saying we should get rid of Marshall).  He traded him (and a 7th) for a 3rd-round pick.  And this is after 3+ years on NE (during which Moss set the single-season record for receiving TDs) and at the end of a significant statistical decline.

When you imply that we should "get rid of Marshall just like Belichick would," do you actually mean "hold on to him for long enough to set records, then trade him at the end of his contract for a third-round pick"?  If so, then that's an awesome idea.

AWESOME, some actual real football talk!!

Difference is all of Moss's "issues" happened BEFORE New England. As soon as he started talking out in the press and showing displeasure, Belichick got rid of him ASAP!  Marshall is continuing his trend of off the field issues in Miami carried over from Denver.  As well as his antics ON the field last year where he was a walking 15 yard penalty at times, it makes perfect sense to cut ties with him now and not take a huge cap hit. Marshall is on the T.O. path where he will be lucky to find 1 team that would sign him. The guy is a nightmare of a teammate and a clear cancer wherever he goes.  He can't be depended on and he can't be trusted.

Brandon got the benefit of the doubt when he came to Miami. New City, new team, clean slate....well that was washed away yesterday with this news item. Normal people aren't getting stabbed by their wife for no good reason. To think he was just some innocent soul who was unlucky is being foolish and short-sited.He clearly pushed her to the point where she snapped and did that to him. That doesn't clear her or make it alright or an excuse for her, but Marshall is at some fault here.

And in all honesty he might be suspended for the year since this probably will be his 3rd strike under the NFL PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY, so cutting him will be an easy decision for our front office

[tubba marxxx]

I love Mike-O's one strike and you're out rule..I seriously hope you are never the boss of a company anywhere..you would single handedly make this recession worse

[MikeO]

I love Mike-O's one strike and you're out rule..I seriously hope you are never the boss of a company anywhere..you would single handedly make this recession worse

One strike? ha ha... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4A756xTC0s

Talk about 15th strike!! Watch the video. See the evidence. Listen to the 911 calls and read the police reports. It's all in the video in the link above. It's all there!

[Phishfan]

I believe that it's against the law to defend yourself with a deadly weapon if your attacker is only using his hands. 

I don't know where you pulled that from. All you have to do is prove fear for your life (or someone else's) in order to use deadly force of your own.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I don't know where you pulled that from. All you have to do is prove fear for your life (or someone else's) in order to use deadly force of your own.

And that your fear was reasonable. 

Simply fearing for your life or that the attacker was going to cause serious bodily harm is not enough.  Your fear must be reasonable (e.g. you can't be paranoid or nuts.  If you genuinely believe that a 3 year old is going to kill you with a foam noodle and you defend yourself with a weapon that is not enough because the fear is not reasonable.)  I think the fear that a professional football player could inflict serious bodily injury with only his hands would be considered reasonable by most courts, so your omission is not a big matter in this case.   

[tubba marxxx]

One strike? ha ha... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4A756xTC0s

Talk about 15th strike!! Watch the video. See the evidence. Listen to the 911 calls and read the police reports. It's all in the video in the link above. It's all there!

Dude, your raging hard on for Miami's failure is actually kinda sickening

[Brian Fein]

Why is everyone assuming that Marshall did something wrong?

History doesn't indicate future.  Its a trend, maybe a coincidence, not the rule.

How bout we wait to hear the whole story before we make any decisions, mmkay?  Remember, Marshall is the VICTIM here, not the assailant.

[tubba marxxx]

^^ couldn't agree more

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^ While random crime does exist....  Most stabbing victims got themselves in that situation by being less than a saint. One thing I learned when I did an internship at the DA's office was there is very very little random crime, much less than the news reports would suggest.  Most of the murder victims were drug dealers in deals gone bad.  Almost every home break in was actually a drug house.  The incidents of kids being randomly kidnapped from playgrounds happens almost never and 99.99% of all kidnapping is a family squabble and custody battle gone messy.  

Very often the criminal aspects of the victim neither are brought up at trial or are ever reported in the paper so we get this false view that random crime is rampant.  It is not, it is almost non-existent.  

My money is there was a reason he got stabbed particularly given his past history.  

[bsfins]

Maybe it's because of my job(including my past job),but for a woman to stab you...(unless she's just plain effin crazy to begin with) A normally sane woman,97.9% of the time...It's because of another woman,or thinking it's another woman...She isn't gonna stab you because you forgot to take out the trash, pay a bill,maybe spent a little too much money...just sayin..

[Spider-Dan]

^^^ While random crime does exist....  Most stabbing victims got themselves in that situation by being less than a saint. One thing I learned when I did an internship at the DA's office was there is very very little random crime, much less than the news reports would suggest.  Most of the murder victims were drug dealers in deals gone bad.  Almost every home break in was actually a drug house.

I can't say I'm surprised to hear that the general sense at a district attorney's office is that the victims of crime also happen to be criminals, too.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I can't say I'm surprised to hear that the general sense at a district attorney's office is that the victims of crime also happen to be criminals, too.

It is not just a general sense.  It is a factual truth.  Most of the victims had rap sheets as long as the accused.  I even heard a public defender joke to a DA "so which one is playing the role the victim this week and which one is the accused?" pointing out that each had accused the other of assault a dozen times.