A different take on the draft

[MikeO]

Since most of you say you wouldn't do it if you're Miami, are you saying you would do it if you were Indy?

in a hearbeat.

[tubba marxxx]

in a hearbeat.

Agreed


You don't pass up the opportunity to be on the clock for the first half hour of the draft

[Pappy13]

Ok, I'm gonna bring this up again because I honestly believe it's a good question especially with what we saw this passed weekend. Why NOT try to trade for Peyton Manning with Indy?  Especially if we end up winning another game or 2 and drop even further down in the draft? Again assuming that the colts are going to pick Luck, why not try to get Peyton? I think now would be the time to get him.

Sure there's a risk. He might never be the same Peyton Manning, but then again there's also a possible big time reward. Remember when there was no guarantee that Drew Brees was ever going to be the same QB? Have you noticed lately what Drew Brees has done in New Orleans? New Orleans took a chance and it paid off. Sometimes that's what you gotta do, take a chance.

Sure, if I had my choice I'd love to get a QB in the draft that I was sure was going to be a franchise player, but the odds of that happening are starting to get more and more slim. What if we don't get either Luck or Landry? Are you still sure we end up with a QB that can turn the franchise around? Heck are you still even sure that Miami takes a QB? Sure Manning might not be the guy he was prior to the injury, but isn't it worth a shot especially if we don't have the #1 pick and especially if we have say the #3 or #4 pick? Even if Manning is only 90% of what he was prior to the injury isn't that better than about 95% of the QB's in the league? And what if he only plays for 2 or 3 more years, wouldn't that give the new coach 2 or 3 more years to find his replacement in the draft?

I'm not saying it's the perfect scenario, but I'm saying it's a possible scenario and one I'd be willing to pursue if Indy takes Luck. Now if Indy doesn't take Luck, then that changes everything.

[Landshark]

Ok, I'm gonna bring this up again because I honestly believe it's a good question especially with what we saw this passed weekend. Why NOT try to trade for Peyton Manning with Indy? 

Because you want a QB that is going to be able to help you win games for the next 10-15 years, not one who has 3 or 4 years tops left in him and is coming off a major surgery from a critical injury. 

[Pappy13]

^^Yes that is what you want, but that's easier said than done. At this point I think the odds that Peyton comes back and plays well for a couple years is higher than the odds of finding a franchise QB in the draft if picking 4th or lower.

I'm a programmer and I know that some times you put in a short term fix to give you more time to find a long term solution. It's not ideal, but it's certainly better than waiting a year on the long term fix only to find out it's no better than the fix you could have put in a year earlier.

[dolfan13]

now that luck is out of the question, this may be the next best approach.

manning isn't going to cost a ton, this team has talent, plus has a very high pick in the draft next year (manning wouldn't cost a first rounder).

draft someone like blackmon, bring in manning, and aggressively play free agency. im not advocating it, but it would be an approach to give you a chance to make a run at it.

[MikeO]

It is very difficult if not impossible for Indy to trade Manning. Manning has a roster bonus due March 8th. If they pay him that, then they almost can't trade him cause it kills their cap. To trade him before March 8th is difficult if not impossible.

If Indy is getting rid of Peyton they will CUT him. It's the only way they really can

And yes, Peyton can push off his roster bonus and NOT take it March 8th, but what is in it for him? Why do that? He would rather be a FA and pick his next spot than help a team who will trade him someplace he might not want to go.

But I think its a big waste of time, Indy will find a way to make Manning and Luck work when all is said and done. At least for 1 year if not longer.

[EKnight]

Sorry...why is Luck out of the question with 8 games left to still be played? -EK

[dolfan13]

you are what your record says you are, but...

this dolphins team really isn't 1-7 bad. they have some talent, which just can't be said for the colts. say what you want about sparano, but the team hasn't packed it in. they still play hard for the guy...

i can see the dolphins going 4-4 over the last stretch of the season, starting with a win tomorrow against the skins.

[RhodeIslandPhinFan]

I'll take Matt Barkley over Landry Jones....just sayin.

[Spider-Dan]

Sorry...why is Luck out of the question with 8 games left to still be played? -EK

It would be more accurate to say that the #1 pick is out of the question.

IND is 0-10.  MIA is 2-7.  IND would have to win 3 of their remaining 6 games to wind up anywhere but #1, and MIA would have to lose out.

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

I'll take Matt Barkley over Landry Jones....just sayin.

I would have to disagree with this.....Barkley just does not impress me at all. I do not see him being much in the NFL. I also could be way, way, off base but that is my opinion.

[MikeO]

Barkley's drawback is his height

Jones has the best arm out of everyone (including Luck) and can make every throw necessary on the NFL level... but he is a cigar shop wooden indian who can't move to save his life.

So would you rather have a QB with little mobility but has an elite arm or a guy with a good arm but can move a bit in the pocket and outside the pocket if need be. Me, I would take either and just build around whoever ya got.

[Pappy13]

Barkley's drawback is his height

According to Wikipedia he's 6'2".  Is that incorrect? That's certainly not too short if it's correct. I guess it's better to be 6'4", but I really don't think that makes much difference.

I kinda like Barkley over Jones.

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

So would you rather have a QB with little mobility but has an elite arm

We had one of those already and he was one of the greatest QB's of all time.....so yeah I would take that again!!!!!!