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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2011, 09:43:09 am »

Very torn on the Bobby V thing.  I am having a VERY hard time letting go of Tito.  I think a lot of that has to do with my personal relationship with the guy as well.  He was, and IS, the right guy for the job.  He was railroaded.  There are a lot of things lately leaving a sour taste in my mouth with the Sox.  I am very glad I am out of the machine and "just a fan."
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 01:59:06 am »

Yeah, Tito didn't deserve what he got. He should still be the manager, but even if they didn't want him to be, they got very personal and childish.

Bobby V is an excellent manager, but I wouldn't be surprised if July comes around and he is publicly feuding with a few players or higher-ups.
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 10:30:48 pm »

6 years/$106 Million

I don't know why, but somehow the Mets aren't going to get Miami's draft pick as compensation, just their 3rd rounder. That stings quite a bit. The Mets were wise to move on as the Marlins were wise to show they are serious about competing instead of just pocketing money.

If Jose can stay healthy(big if) and Hanley can bounce back to form(big if), that is the best 1-2 punch in all of baseball. Hanley is expected to move to 3B, but a move to CF has not been ruled out.

This was the first big piece, next up will be to see who laughably overpays for CJ Wilson. Probably the Nationals again.
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2011, 10:42:05 pm »

Is Pujols still a possibility with the Marlins?  I know it was probably never going to happen anyway, but just theoretically?
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2011, 11:01:52 pm »

Apparently, they have turned on the heat for Pujols, so, yes, it is a possibility.

Kinda upsetting considering this frivolous money spending now that they got their stadium.  Where was this for the past 10 years?
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2011, 11:03:12 pm »

Yes, the Marlins aren't done. They are amongst the favorites to land CJ Wilson or Mark Buerhle.

It remains highly unlikely as with Lebron and Cleveland, 65% of St. Louis' economy is Albert Pujols merchandise. They would be foolish to watch maybe the best player of his generation to leave. Mark Teixeiras and Ryan Howards come along every 5-10 years, not the Pujols's.
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2011, 11:04:58 pm »

This money spending wasn't done before because the owners were scum and pocketed the profits and welfare checks from the luxury tax and revenue sharing. No one buys an MLB team with their last dollar, they are all incredibly rich. The owner for the Minnesota Twins is/was worth more than George Steinbrenner and John Henry.
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2011, 11:16:08 pm »

This money spending wasn't done before because the owners were scum and pocketed the profits and welfare checks from the luxury tax and revenue sharing. No one buys an MLB team with their last dollar, they are all incredibly rich. The owner for the Minnesota Twins is/was worth more than George Steinbrenner and John Henry.
That's what i mean.  these are the same owners.  The only thing that changed is now they care more cause they don't have a terrible stadium deal to use as an excuse.
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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2011, 10:16:54 am »

I'm reading reports that the Marlins also signed Heath Bell.

WHAT?

Huge signing!  Supposedly there will be a press conference tonight to announce it.
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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2011, 10:59:42 am »

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7317535/albert-pujols-miami-marlins-list-targets

ESPN says the Marlins will make a serious run at Pujols.
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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2011, 11:23:24 am »

Boston fan question/rant.....This offseason,every time the Cubs are mentioned to be doing something,in the comments,Boston fans chime in about the compensation for Theo.They act like their shit don't stink,We want Garza or Jackson as compensation for Theo....Even Peter King ( Chiming in on his MMQB lat week I think it was)....Chicago writers think it will be a low minor leaguer or two prospects.Boston writers seem to think Cubs are going to give them some for a top prospect/MLB player like a sacrifice to the Gods of Baseball for Blessing the Cubs with Theo.......Most neutral writers don't seem to be in the middle to the low end prospects....

So I don't understand the hurry then,Why pick from the empty cupboard of the Cubs farm system now,and eat Ketchup and mustard off your hand.Wait till after Theo goes shopping,and restocks the cupboards before you go for compensation...You get a better chance of getting a prime rib sandwhich, with a bag of chips.Hell they could get someone they like off a division rival,that wont trade with Boston...Just my observation....


My Cubs thoughts....
I've heard the Cubs are interested in both Fielder,and Pujols...I still think it's a ploy,yet lastnight it was rumored the Cubs front office might like a shorter contract with Pujols,but higher avg per year salary (show me the birth certificate Indifferent )....I admit It's the only way I'd be comfortable with Pujols...My preference would be neither of them....I pray we trade Marmol....and the wet dream of Zambrano,and/or Soriano...I'd like to keep Garza,but I am worried about 3rd base...

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« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2011, 02:01:55 pm »

The Red Sox won't get anyone of real value for Theo. What are they going to do, bring him back to be GM and pay his big salary when everyone knows he wants to leave?

If they did that, he wouldn't be GM, but he would be a guy who hates the organization making $3 Million. If they fire him, he becomes Cubs GM the next day. So, they are just asking for a lot to see what they can get, like every other team would in a similar situation.
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« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2011, 03:59:13 pm »

As a Met fan, I hope the Marlins have 6 years of "pulled hamstring" just like I've been dealing with for about the same time.   Evil
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2011, 12:19:15 pm »

I like Seeing that Prince Fielder has the Blue jays on his short list of teams, Would be great to have a 1-2 punch of Fielder and Bautista.
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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2011, 03:34:23 pm »

Blue Jays and Mariners are front runners for Fielder. Well, obvious he is choosing the highest bidder over a championship.
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