Replacement Refs [merged x2]

[Brian Fein]

There's another angle from the far end zone that gives you a better look.  Jennings gets possession in the air while Tate has one hand barely touching the ball and the other off elsewhere.  Saw it on SportsCenter yesterday.  I will try to find it.

Edited to add:
Pictures.  Note the arrows to indicate where the ball is and Tate's arm, not on the ball.
Sorry for the terrible quality couldn't find an HD video...





How do you have possession when one arm is off the ball?

[suck for luck]

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/26/nfl-referees-association-officials-agreement-near/70001190/1

Close to agreement. Not sure if it's in this article but I think it Mortensen who broke it and claimed officials could be back by this weekend.

[mecadonzilla]

If/when they do come back, it's still going to take them a bit to get back up to speed.  As the scabs proved, you just can't march in overnight and be ready.

[AZ Fins Fan 55]

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/26/nfl-referees-association-officials-agreement-near/70001190/1

Close to agreement. Not sure if it's in this article but I think it Mortensen who broke it and claimed officials could be back by this weekend.

I have heard this too and although I find it unlikely they said they would be ready for tomorrow nights game.

If/when they do come back, it's still going to take them a bit to get back up to speed.  As the scabs proved, you just can't march in overnight and be ready.

I'm not sure that can be any worse than what we have now.....at least the regular refs understand the basic fundamentals and rules of the NFL game!!!!!

[mecadonzilla]

I'm not sure that can be any worse than what we have now.....at least the regular refs understand the basic fundamentals and rules of the NFL game!!!!!

Agreed.  Even on their worst day, I don't think the real refs could officiate the abortions we've seen this season.

[Phishfan]

Jennings gets possession in the air while Tate has one hand barely touching the ball and the other off elsewhere. 

Posession is not the word you are looking for. Read the rules they posted. You are feeding Pappy's argument by saying posession. Control is the key word.

[Brian Fein]

Yes control. I meant possession in the normal speaking sense, not in the football jargon sense. Control is fine as well.

By rule, in order for it to be a simultaneous catch, both players must gain control and retain control. If either player relinquished control at any time, it is no longer a simultaneous catch. Very clear.

[Pappy13]

You are feeding Pappy's argument by saying posession.

And we can't have THAT!  The guy has a big enough head as it is!