There are plenty of examples. The fact you cannot come up with them, combined with the fact you could not explain why the military went to 3 round burst over fully automatic speaks to just how litle you know about firearms and ammunition. Hollow points based on their design will not go through multiple walls or vehicles, etc. and maintain lethal energy like full metal jacketed rounds will.
In Spiders original post he said :
I support guns for purposes of home protection (but I don't support guns powerful enough to travel across the street and kill your neighbor on a miss).
He said
"guns". Most calibers of
guns are powerful enough to travel across the street and kill someone. I asked what
gun isn't powerful enough to travel across the street. He said a shotgun with buckshot. If that's the case, I asked if he only supported shotguns and if not what other
guns won't travel across the street and kill someone. He or anyone else has yet answered that question. BTW, A hollow point can and will penetrate a wall (depending on the wall of course) and travel across the street and kill or injure someone.
Also, I think that I explained why the military went to the 3 round burst here:
The US government found a vast difference in accuracy and ammo usage between Vietnam and WWII. They concluded that the fully auto M14 and M16 was the main cause due to the fully auto capabilities vs. the semi auto M1 in WWII. The recoil from the full auto caused a significant drop in accuracy and in turn wasted ammunition. This is the main reason they shifted the majority of rifles to a 3 round burst setup instead of fully auto. The military does still issue a smaller percentage of full auto weapons, but that is mostly for suppressive fire. If you ask current military personal how they use their weapons, the majority will tell you that they rarely use 3 round burst or fully auto. It's just not practical.
Caliber, bullet weight, and velocity play a huge role as well. We do not have a problem of people getting killed by over penetrating of rounds fired in defense from one home into another. Most people who have been killed in their homes were hit by rounds that only penetrated the wall of their home or were jacketed bullets from a rifle.
Your whole statement is pretty much correct. However, it was not my ridiculous hypothetical scenario about only supporting guns that won't travel across the street. Then going from a bullet traveling across the street to:
If I fire a shotgun inside, will buckshot travel through the walls of my home, across the street, through the wall of my neighbor's home, and into the bed of their kid? You tell me.
I was simply asking what type of guns he supports under these ridiculous ever changing circumstances.
Here is a good informative site for those of you who lack knowledge of ballistics and weapons. Not the end all by any means, but it is a starting point for those of you who have little to no firearm experience...so you cannot be trolled by people claiming to be "knowledgeable".
http://www.ballistics101.com/personal_defense.phpWow, you're sending people with little to no firearm experience to a website and calling me a troll because I have firearms experience. That's classic.
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