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Landshark
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« on: May 21, 2013, 08:00:00 am »

Reshad Jones skipped out.  Let's hope this doesn't carry over into training camp

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2013/05/reshad-jones-not-at-ota-session-today.html
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 08:15:07 am »

Update.  Looks like he's changed his mind.  If Ireland were smart, he would get a deal done now.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 09:48:30 am »

Get a deal done?  he's under contract...
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 10:19:50 am »

OTA's start today. He missed nothing yesterday.

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Landshark
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 11:15:45 am »

Get a deal done?  he's under contract...


He's in the final year of his deal.  He outplayed that deal last year and nearly made the Pro Bowl.   A smart GM would lock him up into a long term deal now.  If he has another big year, its gonna cost even more money to keep him off the free agent market
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 03:27:48 pm »


He's in the final year of his deal.  He outplayed that deal last year and nearly made the Pro Bowl.   A smart GM would lock him up into a long term deal now.  If he has another big year, its gonna cost even more money to keep him off the free agent market
And if he's benched?  Evil
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 07:10:46 pm »

Better to sign him to a "solid contributor" deal now and cut him if he doesn't produce, than to have him play well again and be forced to sign him to a "star" contract or watch him walk.

MIA doesn't exactly have a lot of depth at the position.
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Landshark
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 08:06:25 pm »

Better to sign him to a "solid contributor" deal now and cut him if he doesn't produce, than to have him play well again and be forced to sign him to a "star" contract or watch him walk.

MIA doesn't exactly have a lot of depth at the position.

Exactly my point. Teams like New England, Green Bay and Pittsburgh do this on a regular basis. This is good cap management
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 08:06:56 pm »

Better to sign him to a "solid contributor" deal
And I'm sure that's what Miami would like to do. I'm not sure that he wants a "solid contributor" deal though. I think he would like to have a pro-bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract. That's why these things usually take a lot longer than we fans would like. I think they'll eventually get a contract done this year, but it will be later rather than sooner because of this reason.
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Landshark
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 10:10:06 pm »

And I'm sure that's what Miami would like to do. I'm not sure that he wants a "solid contributor" deal though. I think he would like to have a pro-bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract. That's why these things usually take a lot longer than we fans would like. I think they'll eventually get a contract done this year, but it will be later rather than sooner because of this reason.

I wouldn't pay a "pro bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract" to a guy who has never made a pro bowl.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 10:45:04 pm »

I wouldn't pay a "pro bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract" to a guy who has never made a pro bowl.
Of course not, but you yourself said that he played at a near pro-bowl level last year. I'm sure in his mind, it's only a matter of time before he's a regular to the pro-bowl. Athletes don't tend to be really objective about their skills especially when they have a agent in their ear telling them how good they are and how underpaid they are. This is my point exactly, that there's usually a wide gap between what the team thinks they are worth and what the player and the agent think they are worth and that's why you don't see a whole lot of teams rushing to sign players before their current contract expires unless they are bona fide superstars.
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 09:11:02 pm »

It's all well and good to try to squeeze every last dime out of the rookie contract, but unless Ireland has Jones' replacement in the wings, it's too risky to let him hit free agency.  He should either sign him to a longer contract or start training up his replacement.

That is, unless Ireland really believes that this is a Super Bowl run.  The abundance of recent 1-year contract signings may indicate just that.
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 06:12:36 pm »

Not that it means anything in late May but Michael Egnew was 1st team Tight End in many packages this week ahead of Keller. I mean Keller will still be the starter at the end of the day but Philbin said Egnew has earned the spot with the time and work he has put in this offseason.

If Egnew can contribute at all in any way its only a bonus at this point. For a guy who was publicy written off as a lost cause by some of his own teammates last year.

Not reading anything into it but maybe a light-bulb went off in Egnew's head where he can at least be a viable #2 or #3 TE on this team and see the field in some packages
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 10:06:25 pm »

Not that it means anything in late May but Michael Egnew was 1st team Tight End in many packages this week ahead of Keller. I mean Keller will still be the starter at the end of the day but Philbin said Egnew has earned the spot with the time and work he has put in this offseason.

If Egnew can contribute at all in any way its only a bonus at this point. For a guy who was publicy written off as a lost cause by some of his own teammates last year.

Not reading anything into it but maybe a light-bulb went off in Egnew's head where he can at least be a viable #2 or #3 TE on this team and see the field in some packages

If I recall correctly, at the start of OTA's in 2009, Shawn Murphy had "earned" the starting guard spot.  We all know where he ended up after training camp.
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 10:10:11 pm »

If I recall correctly, at the start of OTA's in 2009, Shawn Murphy had "earned" the starting guard spot.  We all know where he ended up after training camp.

But that head coach was a moron and that team was void of talent. Philbin doesn't have that issue and doens't play those games
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