No stadium. Now what?

[Brian Fein]

The locals didn't get to have a say because ONE MAN decided they shouldn't.  In other countries, a guy like that would be known as a dictator.

EXACTLY

That's why I don't understand how this happened.  Why does one guy get to make that decision?  I guess I don't understand the politics of state legislature.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

So we have 1 MLB park in the last 4 decades that is privately funded. we have 1 NFL park in recent times that is privately funded. And until the Warriors arena is built and the team moves (which won't be till 2018 at the earliest )...it doesn't count!
 a say!!

You only asked for one.  See below.   You got three.  I didn't do research to see if there was others.  I used the ONE that was off the top of my head. 

Name the owner (in any sport) who in recent times has paid 100% for a new a stadium and NOT taken/used public money? Those days of that being a realistic option are long gone!  This isn't the 70's and 80's....those days are over with.

[MikeO]

You only asked for one. 

Yep, you named 1.... give yourself a cookie! All together we came up with only 2 examples in all four major sports in recent times. Like I said, I stand by my statement it is unrealistic to expect an owner in this day of age to pay for a new stadium all on his own. You came up with 1 exception, it's not the norm!

[Sunstroke]

Mike,

I'm not sure if you realize this, but when you ask for one example of something, and someone gives you one example of that thing, coming back with a "give yourself a cookie" response seems more than a little bit rude.

Just laying it out there...if you want others to get along with you, maybe you could try getting along with others.

[MikeO]

Mike,

I'm not sure if you realize this, but when you ask for one example of something, and someone gives you one example of that thing, coming back with a "give yourself a cookie" response seems more than a little bit rude.

Just laying it out there...if you want others to get along with you, maybe you could try getting along with others.

ha ha, now this post is funny... save the life lecture dad and lets stick to talking football!  unreal!

[Phishfan]

Mike you realize having even one exception completely negates your comment that the days are over don't you?

[MikeO]

Mike you realize having even one exception completely negates your comment that the days are over don't you?

No not at all! There is always an exception to the norm, it doesn't negate what "reality" is. Look you and other can have whatever pipe dreams you want...if you are holding your breath for owners to now start building their own stadiums with no public money, good luck! Keep dreaming. In 4 major sports you got 2 examples in like 40 years!! We have provided 2 examples, ok. that's nice. Exception not the rule!

P.S...since Bob Kraft did build his own place 11 years ago or so there has been a flurry of owners copying his model and building their own stadiums with their own money. Oh wait, no there hasn't!

[Sunstroke]

Mike you realize having even one exception completely negates your comment that the days are over don't you? 

It means that those days are over...except on days when it's not over. 

[MikeO]

It means that those days are over...except on days when it's not over. 

As I keep saying, you can't see the forest from the trees! Cling to your 1 example of an NFL owner doing this and pass it off as "the norm" and "common place"

[Phishfan]

And you keep ignoring an example that shows the days aren't over. Maybe it isn't the norm but that isn't what you said backpeddler.

[MikeO]

And you keep ignoring an example that shows the days aren't over. Maybe it isn't the norm but that isn't what you said backpeddler.

I didn't ignore it!!!  I acknowledge the Pats and the SF Giants privately funded their own stadiums which Hoodie and el Diablo brought up. I am saying that just 2 examples in all of these recent years in 4 major sports doesn't change my stance.

[bsmooth]

People are tired of spending. Instead of looking at the privately funded stadiums, look at the fight to get tax bills passed to fund them. It used to be easy and it has gotten much harder as people realized just how screwed the tax payers, all of them, not just the ones who are fans, are by these proposals.
People are tired of billionaire owners and ownership groups turning to them for upgrades that add value to their product.
How about the teams selling ownership stocks to the public to raise funds.

[Brian Fein]

You think people automatically know off the top of their head who paid for every stadium?  If someone cared enough about this ridiculous discussion to go look up who paid for every stadium in the 4 major sports, I am sure you'd come up with more than 2 examples.  That's just off the top of our heads.

Regardless, who cares?  Your point matters not to the discussion.

[Sunstroke]

As I keep saying, you can't see the forest from the trees!

Since you won't accept any advice on social behavior, perhaps you'll appreciate some literary advice from an editor.  The cliché you keep butchering is actually "you can't see the forest for the trees."

[MikeO]

You think people automatically know off the top of their head who paid for every stadium?  If someone cared enough about this ridiculous discussion to go look up who paid for every stadium in the 4 major sports, I am sure you'd come up with more than 2 examples.  That's just off the top of our heads.

Regardless, who cares?  Your point matters not to the discussion.

1) No there are only a couple examples that is the point! I didn't think there were any. I was proven wrong and there are 2! Still doesn't change my stance though.

2) It matters in the discussion in that many people (including some here on this site) are saying..."Ross should just pay for it himself". Why should he when almost no other owners in any other sports do that!!