FOX Sports fires Craig James after debate remarks surface

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If that's the case then every single Christian is homophobic

Not every single Christian.

Many Anglicanism, Christian Reformed Church in Europe, Latter Day Saint, Lutheranism, Metropolitan Community Church, Moravian Church, New Apostolic Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterianism, some Quakers, some Swedenborgianism, United Church of Canada, United Church of Christ,
Uniting Church in Australia, Unity School of Christianity welcome gays.  

[Fau Teixeira]

If that's the case then every single Christian is homophobic as it's in the book that they follow. Outlaw the Bible then too are we? Maybe classify it as hate literature?

Now that you bring it up.

Yes, a true believer of Christianity is by definition homophobic. I agree with you.  Thankfully I've found that there are alot more CINOs (Christians in name only) around than actual true literal followers of the book.

Which brings me to your 2nd point. We can't outlaw the bible, nor would I want to. I'd much rather that everyone that described themselves as christian would actually read the bible from cover to cover and understand exactly what they believe.

I don't know if i would classify the Bible as hate literature, I know you brought that up as hyperbole. I just haven't given that angle much thought. It hinges on what the bible is, if it's a collection of allegories and stories put together hundreds of years after the fact, then it's at best a recitation of stories told word-of-mouth for generations before being penned down to paper. In that sense, then no, i wouldn't say it's hate literature, in that it does't incite hate, but a collection of stories and legends.

If the bible, on the other hand is divinely inspired truth from god, and 100% unquestionable. Then i think a case could be made that a book that advocates slavery, endorses and supports rape and murder could be hate literature.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

What is hateful?

About the bible?

Ever read it.....

Here is a passage explaining selling your daughter as a slave....

  When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.   Exodus 21:7-11

Here is a section telling your to kill people of other religions...


   "If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst."   Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Here is the rule regarding how hard you can beat your slave...

Slave Beating
 
    "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property."   Exodus 21:20-21

Do you want more?

[Fau Teixeira]

Judges 21:10-12:

"So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. 'This is what you are to do,' they said. 'Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.' They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan."

This is the penalty of rape btw:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29:

"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

[Buddhagirl]

Look at you guys using all that logic!

[Spider-Dan]

If that's the case then every single Christian is homophobic as it's in the book that they follow.

Only some Christians interpret the Bible in a way to require that our government outlaw same-sex marriage.  Just as only some Christians interpreted the Bible in a way to require that our government outlaw interracial marriage.

There are many prohibitions in the Bible (e.g. worshipping false gods, coveting your neighbor's wife, taking the Lord's name in vain) that are not against U.S. law, and in fact are specifically protected by U.S. law.  Can you be a good Christian and allow the First Amendment to exist?  Why is "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (a commandment, mind you) an acceptable casualty to the First Amendment, yet some random verse in Leviticus must be protected at all costs?

I mean, when did not being politically correct become illegal?

As has been stated, no one is threatening to lock Craig James up, so the law is not in question.

Christianity has not changed so where was the outcry for the last 2000 years?

Christianity has changed a great deal in the last 2000 years, sir.  I'm sure you're familiar with the Middle Ages...

[pondwater]

And the media propaganda machine just keep on rolling over anyone that doesn't agree with the politically correct bullshit du jour. Fire everyone that doesn't agree with the agenda and let me know how that works out, I'll wait.

[Landshark]

I don't agree with this firing.  If he didn't make those comments while he was a Fox News employee, Fox should not hold him accountable.

[bsmooth]

I don't think it is hateful. I think his comments are ignorant and show someone who is incapable of thinking for himself outside what his religion tells him to think.
He should not have been fired.

[CF DolFan]

Only some Christians interpret the Bible in a way to require that our government outlaw same-sex marriage.  Just as only some Christians interpreted the Bible in a way to require that our government outlaw interracial marriage.

There are many prohibitions in the Bible (e.g. worshipping false gods, coveting your neighbor's wife, taking the Lord's name in vain) that are not against U.S. law, and in fact are specifically protected by U.S. law.  Can you be a good Christian and allow the First Amendment to exist?  Why is "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (a commandment, mind you) an acceptable casualty to the First Amendment, yet some random verse in Leviticus must be protected at all costs?
As has been stated, no one is threatening to lock Craig James up, so the law is not in question.
Christianity has changed a great deal in the last 2000 years, sir.  I'm sure you're familiar with the Middle Ages...

You are purposely confusing the people say they are Christians.

Yawn ... you guys are so predictable. Another Christian attack on semantics instead of addressing the question. 


The guy was fired for his religious beliefs. Ironically his beliefs are the exact same as the majority of the company who fired him but he was in fact, fired for them. You can agree with them, or disagree with them but that what he was fired for.

[Fau Teixeira]

he absolutely was NOT fired for his beliefs . .he was fired for giving his beliefs a public voice..

There is no freedom of speech when it comes to a private enterprise .. if you say something that reflects poorly on your employer they are within their rights to fire you no matter the source of that speech. That's all there is to it.. nothing more .. nothing less.

had he kept his mouth shut about the topic of gay marriage he wouldn't have been fired ..

[Spider-Dan]

You are purposely confusing the people say they are Christians.

"All those guys who openly claimed to be Christian but did stuff I don't personally agree with?  Oh, they weren't true Christians."

Pretty predictable too, if I do say so myself.

The guy was fired for his religious beliefs.

This is not a shield.

If your religious belief is that women should not be allowed out of the kitchen, and you put your voice to this belief, then guess what?  You are not going to be employed for any company that wants the business of American women.

If you have an objectionable belief, you can't just play the "but it's part of my religion!" card and miraculously escape all criticism or consequences.  Should we allow people to have multiple teenaged wives because religion?

[masterfins]

he absolutely was NOT fired for his beliefs . .he was fired for giving his beliefs a public voice..

There is no freedom of speech when it comes to a private enterprise .. if you say something that reflects poorly on your employer they are within their rights to fire you no matter the source of that speech. That's all there is to it.. nothing more .. nothing less.

had he kept his mouth shut about the topic of gay marriage he wouldn't have been fired ..

Unfortunately this is correct.  It's the Fox news way of doing things - be a closet racist, homophobe, etc. with a wink and a nod, bring other people on to promote these topics, but stay just behind the curtain to avoid being labeled yourself.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Unfortunately this is correct.  It's the Fox news way of doing things - be a closet racist, homophobe, etc. with a wink and a nod, bring other people on to promote these topics, but stay just behind the curtain to avoid being labeled yourself.

It is obviously clear that FoxNews and FoxSports have two entirely different set of standards.  There is no way Fox News would have fired Craig James for this type of comment. 

But Fox Sports is about Sports, not giving a voice to politicizing right-wing extremest. 

[Sunstroke]

I'm sure he'll find another job...maybe The 700 Club could do a sports highlights show.