2.5 million Americans have lost their individual medical insurance policies sinc

[Buddhagirl]

I don't see $350 a month as a win. Anyone in my family who doesn't work for a company who provides health insurance certainly can't afford this. $14 an hour equates to about $29,000 a year or about $560 a week before taxes and whatever else. 350 is about 75 percent of their one week take home pay. I don't know anyone making that who can afford to give up anything let alone almost a check a month.

I'm not paying $350 a month. My new fee will be $72.67.

Here's my actual bill:

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I don't see $350 a month as a win. Anyone in my family who doesn't work for a company who provides health insurance certainly can't afford this. $14 an hour equates to about $29,000 a year or about $560 a week before taxes and whatever else. 350 is about 75 percent of their one week take home pay. I don't know anyone making that who can afford to give up anything let alone almost a check a month.

Her health insurance cost dropped from ~$350 a month to ~$75 a month.  I call that a win. 

[Buddhagirl]

Her health insurance cost dropped from ~$350 a month to ~$75 a month.  I call that a win. 

With better coverage that is NOT always trying to drop me because I'm a "liability" due to my blood clot issue.

[Spider-Dan]

I don't see $350 a month as a win. Anyone in my family who doesn't work for a company who provides health insurance certainly can't afford this. $14 an hour equates to about $29,000 a year or about $560 a week before taxes and whatever else. 350 is about 75 percent of their one week take home pay. I don't know anyone making that who can afford to give up anything let alone almost a check a month.

CF, that is what she was paying BEFORE the ACA.

[pondwater]

Her health insurance cost dropped from ~$350 a month to ~$75 a month.  I call that a win. 

Was this the intended effect of Obamacare? I mean, since it's a "win" as you call it. Should the majority of Americans expect a "win" with better coverage and lower premiums?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Was this the intended effect of Obamacare? I mean, since it's a "win" as you call it. Should the majority of Americans expect a "win" with better coverage and lower premiums?

The majority of  Americans should be better off because of Obamacare.  Better coverage OR lower premiums -- but she got both.   

[pondwater]

The majority of  Americans should be better off because of Obamacare.  Better coverage OR lower premiums -- but she got both.   

Better coverage AND lower premiums. Sounds like a good business model. My triple whammy of higher premiums, higher deductible, and lower coverage percentage must just be an anomaly in the matrix. But then again, it seems like most people I know are in the same boat as me. I guess the good plans only go to Obama voters, because the only people I know that obamacare is "helping" are part time employees. And that's only if you consider "helping" as a lower price for the plan. In my opinion, "forcing" someone, isn't "helping" someone.

[Spider-Dan]

If you want to provide specifics on your before-ACA and after-ACA plans, feel free.

You wouldn't be the first person to be unaware that they can get cheaper, better coverage now.

[Buddhagirl]

Better coverage AND lower premiums. Sounds like a good business model. My triple whammy of higher premiums, higher deductible, and lower coverage percentage must just be an anomaly in the matrix. But then again, it seems like most people I know are in the same boat as me. I guess the good plans only go to Obama voters, because the only people I know that obamacare is "helping" are part time employees. And that's only if you consider "helping" as a lower price for the plan. In my opinion, "forcing" someone, isn't "helping" someone.

You do know that you are free to shop for a cheaper plan, right?

[CF DolFan]

The numbers I was given referred to what she currently has vs what it us under the new Obama plan. Apparently it works out for some like Buddha. I don't know if age, race, and marital status has an effect although I had seen an article about some people contemplating divorce because it made it cheaper.

Clinton has said Obama needs to allow people to keep existing since that's what he said and Obama has people looking into how they can do that. The same article I read yesterday said less than half save money or doesn't rise. That means more peoples are rising than saving. 

[Sunstroke]

although I had seen an article about some people contemplating divorce because it made it cheaper.

Wow, Obama's plan is so heinous that he has good people considering defying the Will of God and breaking the sanctity of marriage? Truly, he is the Great Satan after all!!

 

[pondwater]

The numbers I was given referred to what she currently has vs what it us under the new Obama plan. Apparently it works out for some like Buddha. I don't know if age, race, and marital status has an effect although I had seen an article about some people contemplating divorce because it made it cheaper.

Clinton has said Obama needs to allow people to keep existing since that's what he said and Obama has people looking into how they can do that. The same article I read yesterday said less than half save money or doesn't rise. That means more peoples are rising than saving. 

Oh hell yeah, you can bet your ass that race, income, and age have everything to do with it, in that order. Certain middle and upper class people get to pay more for minorities, the poor, and other unmotivated people. They know that people with existing employer paid insurance(the middle class)that is deemed "affordable" by King Barack is not eligible for Obamacare. This whole program is designed as a wealth redistribution program in the short term. In the long term it is designed to fail and transition into a single payer system. Sure, the health insurance industry had issues that needed to be fixed. They could have passed a law that addressed the pre existing, lifetime caps, and the canceling of policies. They could have addressed buying insurance across state line to increase competition. But that wasn't the agenda. The systematic destruction of the American way of life by the enemy is the agenda. I don't know about you CF, but I'll just nut up and pay the extortion rates that the crook in the white house has created. If I didn't have kids I would just pay the penalty and adjust my w4 allowances so that I owe instead of getting a refund. My attorney informed me that the only way they can legally collect the penalty is if you are due a refund. So in reality, if you are smart enough or can figure out your withholding, there is no penalty. No mechanism for collection = no penalty.

[Fau Teixeira]

We live in a socialist country .. we have the moment we passed an income tax..

police
fire departments
military
FEMA
emergency response systems
the interstate highway system
CDC
EPA
farm subsidies
dept of education
medicare
social security
medicaid

Are ALL socialist institutions. The government is taking my money by force in order to support societal level programs. I have no say and no recourse in the matter. That's the very definition of socialism.

a single payer system is the american way .. we invented medicare  .. where do you think socialist europe got their idea for universal health care from ?

The people calling for anarchy are the enemies of the american way of life. Our way of life IS a single payer system. Our way of life IS socialism .. welcome to the country pondwater.

If you don't like it .. win an election every once in a while.

[pondwater]

We live in a socialist country

That's all you had to say, maybe? the government will take care of you. I wonder why so may Obama supporters deny it when Obama is called a socialist? 

police
fire departments
military
FEMA
emergency response systems
the interstate highway system
CDC
EPA
farm subsidies
dept of education
medicare
social security
medicaid

Half the government isn't needed, so therefore half of that shit isn't needed.

If you don't like it .. win an election every once in a while.

Thanks, but I'm not a politician. I don't need fanboys like Obama does.

On an off note for FYI. Although, I claim neither, it seems that Republicans have won the White House more than the Democrats.

[CF DolFan]

Wow, Obama's plan is so heinous that he has good people considering defying the Will of God and breaking the sanctity of marriage? Truly, he is the Great Satan after all!!

 

I realize you are being funny but apparently there is quite a bit of a difference.

"What you are doing is saying ... you have to pay a penalty of multiple hundreds of dollars—a substantial portion of your income—to stay married," Rector says. "It's saying society is basically hostile to the institution of marriage."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/09/Married-Couple-May-Divorce-To-Save-Money-on-Obamacare

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/06/obamacare-restrictions-lead-brooklyn-couple-to-consider-divorce/