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[pondwater]

They may be slightly ahead of KFC, but I don't believe Chick-fil-A is competing with KFC. 

If you call almost $1billion in sales with only around 1/3 retail locations while being open only 6 days a week, slightly ahead. Ummmm, ok. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chick-fil-a-stole-kfc-s-chicken-crown-with-a-fraction-of-the-stores-151835949.html

They predominantly serve sandwiches, so their competition is likely more in line with Wendy's, BK, and McD's.  The only reason they are ahead of KFC is because KFC fell drastically from the previous year, not because Chick-fil-A is so much better.

According to this list, Chick-fil-A is 9th among fast-food chains (based on 2012 numbers).

http://www.qsrmagazine.com/reports/qsr50-2013-top-50-chart

Chicken is chicken. Boneless or bone in. On a sandwich or out of a bucket. An article from your reference of choice that lists Chick-fil-A as direct competition with KFC. http://www.qsrmagazine.com/reports/qsr50-2013-chicken-segment-breakdown . So it seem that you are wrong on that point.

Personally, I bet they'd be higher on that list if not for their radical anti-gay stance.

I doubt that their perfectly acceptable opinion of abnormal behavior has anything to do with their place on the list. According to these posts, their food isn't any good.

The food isn't that good

The only reason they are ahead of KFC is because KFC fell drastically from the previous year, not because Chick-fil-A is so much better.

Are you saying that gay people and their supporters would eat there if not for their anti-gay stance. Even in spite of their bad food. That's funny stuff, lol.

None of this stuff has anything to do with it. However, just think of how high sales would be if they were open on Sundays. That would affect their place on the list much more than any of these silly homo politics and agendas.

[Spider-Dan]

If I owned a small pizza restaurant across the street from a Pizza Hut, Dominos, and Papa Johns. Do I care how much money they make in England or Poland? Or am I concerned with the market that I'm involved it? Until Chick-fil-A enters other markets it doesn't matter. They are winning the fight that they are in, the US market.

So then, if Uncle Tony's New York Pizzeria is making more money than the Pizza Hut directly across the street, it is fair to say that Uncle Tony's is kicking Pizza Hut's ass?

And your point is? That a smaller, younger, and only regional chain is beating the largest chain in the world in their home country.

And yet somehow, I don't think KFC will be returning all the revenue that comes from other countries.

Is money earned in other countries less important than money earned in the USA?

Regardless of all of that, Chick-fil-a is still #1 in the country. It's funny how you will argue and defend everything liberal, but you can't argue against real facts.

Chicken is chicken. Boneless or bone in. On a sandwich or out of a bucket.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't McDonald's sell chicken?  In sandwiches and by the box?  I wonder what number they are...

Pretty funny that you chide me for "arguing against real facts" while you try to insist that international stores don't count.

[Brian Fein]

You have seen a few people on this forum chime in and say "I don't eat there because of their anti-gay stance" - that's lost sales no matter how you look at it.  That's an $8 lunch one or two times per week from  millions of people, despite your personal opinion.  I'm sure, given the choice, they'd rather have that money than not.

You can muddy the waters with your "closed on Sunday" argument and your business rankings (my "source of choice" was the nothing more than the first on a Google search, BTW), but at the end of the day lost sales is lost sales.

Furthermore, I can't begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound when you say things like "abnormal behavior."  Homophobia at its finest.

[Dave Gray]

I don't know why this has turned into a Chik-Fil-A vs. KFC argument.  Who cares?

Anyway, I don't consider them competitors.  I think of Chik-Fil-A more like Wendy's ....some place I'd go get a chicken sandwich -- not a bucket of chicken.

I would prefer Chik-Fil-A over KFC any day of the week.  I just never eat there, and would otherwise.

[pondwater]

So then, if Uncle Tony's New York Pizzeria is making more money than the Pizza Hut directly across the street, it is fair to say that Uncle Tony's is kicking Pizza Hut's ass?
And yet somehow, I don't think KFC will be returning all the revenue that comes from other countries.

Yes, Uncle Tony's would be kicking their ass in the market they are competing in. They can't compete in a country if they don't exist in that country.

Is money earned in other countries less important than money earned in the USA?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't McDonald's sell chicken?  In sandwiches and by the box?  I wonder what number they are...[/quote] That's just a plain silly argument. Everyone knows that McDonald's is a hamburger joint, even small children.

Pretty funny that you chide me for "arguing against real facts" while you try to insist that international stores don't count.

I didn't say international sales didn't count. They just don't count as far as Chick-fil-A is concerned. They don't do international business, they aren't in that game whatsoever. Why would they care? They are the best where they exist.

[Phishfan]

Anyway, I don't consider them competitors.  I think of Chik-Fil-A more like Wendy's ....some place I'd go get a chicken sandwich -- not a bucket of chicken.

Here is the thing, These two specialize in chicken regardless of how it is served. That is why these two get paired together. You can't get burgers at either one. The McDonalds & Wendy's comparison is with chains that do sandwiches but were built off of their burger business. In reality, they are all competing with each other.

[pondwater]

You have seen a few people on this forum chime in and say "I don't eat there because of their anti-gay stance" - that's lost sales no matter how you look at it.  That's an $8 lunch one or two times per week from  millions of people, despite your personal opinion.  I'm sure, given the choice, they'd rather have that money than not.

I'm sure they lose business to PETA and people who think that they treat chickens badly. Every business loses business for some reason. Still, at the end of the day, they are #1 in the United States.

You can muddy the waters with your "closed on Sunday" argument and your business rankings (my "source of choice" was the nothing more than the first on a Google search, BTW), but at the end of the day lost sales is lost sales.

They are winning being open only 6 days a week and KFC is open 7 days a week. That's not muddy waters. That's having a superior product and services.

Furthermore, I can't begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound when you say things like "abnormal behavior."  Homophobia at its finest.

If you would like to explain how it is "normal" behavior to be homosexual, I'm all ears.

[Spider-Dan]

Yes, Uncle Tony's would be kicking their ass in the market they are competing in. They can't compete in a country if they don't exist in that country.

So when it comes to total revenue, Chick-Fil-A isn't beating KFC at all; they are getting stomped.  But if you ignore several thousand KFC outlets, then sure, I guess Chick-Fil-A wins!

Didn't I say this at the beginning?  Chick-Fil-A is a primarily regional chain.  And yes, in their region (which is a subsection of the U.S.), they do great against KFC.  But their business model (with a heavy emphasis on pandering to Christian conservatives) doesn't play well outside of the South.

So if they want to be the most successful chicken restaurant in the South (and make more money in the South in 6 days than KFC does in the entire U.S. in 7), they're doing a great job.  I guess KFC will just have to settle for being the most successful chicken restaurant on the planet (the whole planet, not just one subsection).

I didn't say international sales didn't count. They just don't count as far as Chick-fil-A is concerned. They don't do international business, they aren't in that game whatsoever. Why would they care? They are the best where they exist.

In that case, why would Chick-Fil-A have expanded out of Atlanta in the first place?  Shouldn't they have been satisfied with being the best where they exist?

Your logic runs counter to the entire idea of a chain restaurant.

[Dave Gray]

In reality, they are all competing with each other.

I think that this is the most true.

I am somewhat ignorant on this subject, but does Chik-Fil-A even sell "bucket" chicken? 

I know that KFC has sandwiches, but I never get one there, so I don't know.  If I'm looking for a chicken sandwich, I go elsewhere, which is kinda weird, not that I think about it.

[Brian Fein]

If you would like to explain how it is "normal" behavior to be homosexual, I'm all ears.

I bet someone like you in 1950 once said African Americans were "abnormal"...

The definition of "normal" changes over time.  Clearly your definition is stuck in the 70's or 80's.

[Dave Gray]

^ Hey, I didn't say that!

[Phishfan]

It's right there for the world to see Dave.

[Spider-Dan]

I am somewhat ignorant on this subject, but does Chik-Fil-A even sell "bucket" chicken?

They do not.  They sell chicken sandwiches, chicken salads/wraps, and chicken nuggets/strips.

Their menu is basically McDonald's, but without all the non-chicken items.

[Phishfan]

^^^ They also have chicken salad which is different.

Basically, no bone in products. The name of the company is a play on the word filet.

[pondwater]

I bet someone like you in 1950 once said African Americans were "abnormal"...

As the African Americans black people say. "Someone like me, what the hell's that supposed to mean?" LOL

The definition of "normal" changes over time.  Clearly your definition is stuck in the 70's or 80's.

Well then why don't you tell me what "your" current definition of normal is and how it applies to homosexuality and we'll go from there.