Amazing Spiderman 2

[Dave Gray]

Jesus Christ guys.  This was a steaming pile.

I mean...honestly.  What is the movie even about?  What is the plot?

[Sunstroke]

^^^ I'll watch it a couple more times and get back to ya on that...

[Dave Gray]

Electro = Joker

I can't tell you what to like, so if it's just a matter of opinion, that's fine.  However, I fail to see any connection between Electro and the Joker.

Electro LITERALLY has the same motivation as the Ridder in Batman Forever.  He works for the big, bad corporation.  He is obsessed with the hero prior to his transformation.  Some company property turns him into a madman.  He seeks revenge on the hero because he feels dismissed and disrespected.

[SCFinfan]

IMHO: Was a very weak movie.

I'll leave this video to go into more detail for me:

http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-transcendence-and-the-amazing-spider-man-2/

[Tenshot13]

I can't tell you what to like, so if it's just a matter of opinion, that's fine.  However, I fail to see any connection between Electro and the Joker.

Electro LITERALLY has the same motivation as the Ridder in Batman Forever.  He works for the big, bad corporation.  He is obsessed with the hero prior to his transformation.  Some company property turns him into a madman.  He seeks revenge on the hero because he feels dismissed and disrespected.

Flip that,  I meant electro = Two Face,  GG=Joker. Anyways,  I felt this was the best portail of any spiderman yet by a mile. It was action packed and actually makes spidey a cocky smart ass vs Mcguire's emo version.  It's was action packed and obviously is the setup movie for the sinister six.

[Dave Gray]

In terms of the Spider-Man scale, I think I'd put this as film #4 of 5.

I think that ASM and SM1 and 2 were all better.  I've never been in love with any of the Spidey films, though.  This, for me, was definitely closer to SM3 than near the top of the list.

[Thundergod]

I agree with Dave, ASM2 was bad. I found myself bored, the characters were meh, and the cheesiness... oh the cheese. If this is a true representation of the comics...    I'll stick to the original movie trilogy.

[Sunstroke]

...actually makes spidey a cocky smart ass vs Mcguire's emo version. 

This might be why I appreciated this movie as much as I did. I felt it was the first Spiderman movie that really portrayed his smart-ass bantering personality the way it was in the old comic books.

[VidKid]

I have been reading and collecting (even dressing the part at the movie premiers) and while the quick wit is the Spiderman we know and love, the movie itself lacked proper direction/storytelling. The plot was all over the place, the holes left me with questions.. and not the good, thought provoking questions. There was so much that didn't need to be there and other stuff that could have been.

The success of Marvel's 'cinematic universe' is making other studio houses jump but without putting the necessary time into their projects. Sony should have built this universe over a couple movies. Make a good ASM#2. Then do ASM#3, build up the Sinister Six / Venom / others. Not everything has to be done in one movie.

The studio is pushing back ASM#3. Announced conveniently after the poor box office / critic reviews. Rumors are they're thinking Sinister Six first (which may or may not even have spidey in it). Something just isn't right over there.

I feel like there is a Kevin Smith Superman story over at Sony that we just haven't heard yet    - (for those that don't know the story - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk)

[Sunstroke]

That Kevin Smith interview had me rolling here...thanks for that link.

[Dave Gray]

Love that Kevin Smith story -- one of his best. 

ASM and the sequel got so much right.  But one of those things isn't a plot or character motivations.  Honestly, what is the plot?  I mean...can you even answer it?

ASM2 plays out like disconnected vignettes rather than a coherent story.

[Tenshot13]

Love that Kevin Smith story -- one of his best. 

ASM and the sequel got so much right.  But one of those things isn't a plot or character motivations.  Honestly, what is the plot?  I mean...can you even answer it?

ASM2 plays out like disconnected vignettes rather than a coherent story.

Good guy deals with adversity and stops bad guy. How is that any different than any other superhero movie?

[SCFinfan]

Good guy deals with adversity and stops bad guy. How is that any different than any other superhero movie?

Because there is understandable motivation and cohesive storytelling in other superhero movies.

[Dave Gray]

Good guy deals with adversity and stops bad guy. How is that any different than any other superhero movie?

That's not really a plot summary. 

And even if that were the plot summary, that is super outdated.  Do you think that's what The Dark Knight or Winter Soldier is about?  These superhero movies have evolved to be ABOUT things.  They have reasonable character motivations, themes.  I don't think that ASM2 has this stuff.

It's kinda about people dealing with their fathers (Harry and Peter and the mysteries of their past).  But it abandons that and is kinda about the importance of keeping promises (Peter's relationship with Gwen's dad).  It also abandons this and has Electro in it, with no real thematic connection to anything that I can tell.

It's a collection of Spider-man related scenes, but nothing that ties things together.  THe whole subplot about the Dad....it means nothing.  Had it been erased from both films entirely, it wouldn't make one iota of difference...yet it's quite a bit of screen-time dedicated to it, to no end.

This is a movie made by producers making a checklist and I think it backfired.

[Sunstroke]

For some crazy reason, I now find myself wishing that Spiderman had fought a giant spider...