PFF Explains their QB Rankings.

[Pappy13]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/17/analysis-notebook-week-2-3/

This is for EK to drive him crazy. Love ya man!

[MikeO]

As I have always said....you take ALL of PFF rankings at face value. Or you take none of them. Ya can't ignore the QB ones but then go use the WR ones or TE ones or O-line ones as support for a stance. You are all in with them or don't buy into them at all. No gray area

[Sunstroke]

As I have always said....you take ALL of PFF rankings at face value. Or you take none of them. Ya can't ignore the QB ones but then go use the WR ones or TE ones or O-line ones as support for a stance. You are all in with them or don't buy into them at all. No gray area

So, if I agree with the formula they use to rate offensive lineman, I am required to agree with every formula they use to rate every other position? Do you have any idea how ridiculously closed-minded that sounds?

As I have always said...

Saying something wrong over and over again, or louder and louder...doesn't make it any less wrong.

[MikeO]

So, if I agree with the formula they use to rate offensive lineman, I am required to agree with every formula they use to rate every other position? Do you have any idea how ridiculously closed-minded that sounds?

YES!! Because PFF uses an in-house one of a kind like no other formula to grade ALL of the positions. You can't agree with some of their logic and not others. It's silly. Makes no sense. You buy into what they are selling as a whole, or you don't. Whether you believe in their rankings or don't doesn't matter. It's just that you are all in with them or all out. To say they are right about certain things and certain positions but wrong about others makes no sense because its the same in house one of a kind like no other grading system that they built they use for EVERYTHING! You aren't buying into certain "formulas" you are buying into them and the process they have created across the board.

[Spider-Dan]

It is entirely reasonable to believe that their system for grading offensive lineman is flawed, while also believing that their system for grading defensive backs is weighted more accurately.

If I reject ESPN's team Power Rankings, does that also mean I must reject QBR?

[Sunstroke]

It is entirely reasonable to believe that their system for grading offensive lineman is flawed, while also believing that their system for grading defensive backs is weighted more accurately.

If I reject ESPN's team Power Rankings, does that also mean I must reject QBR?

Exactly!

[Rich]

YES!! Because PFF uses an in-house one of a kind like no other formula to grade ALL of the positions. You can't agree with some of their logic and not others. It's silly. Makes no sense. You buy into what they are selling as a whole, or you don't. Whether you believe in their rankings or don't doesn't matter. It's just that you are all in with them or all out. To say they are right about certain things and certain positions but wrong about others makes no sense because its the same in house one of a kind like no other grading system that they built they use for EVERYTHING! You aren't buying into certain "formulas" you are buying into them and the process they have created across the board.

This doesn't make sense as they look at different things when grading different positions.

That being said, I would rather look at PFF's rankings and grades than a stat sheet on ESPN or NFL.

[Dave Gray]

I heard this guy (I think it was this guy) talking about this on the radio.  He made a point which I'd like you all to take into consideration.  He said that the sample size is so small, that though Tanny was ranked #2, he's only like 2 or 3 throws from being #15 -- that over the course of a few more games, this will all look a lot clearer and work itself out.

[Rich]

I heard this guy (I think it was this guy) talking about this on the radio.  He made a point which I'd like you all to take into consideration.  He said that the sample size is so small, that though Tanny was ranked #2, he's only like 2 or 3 throws from being #15 -- that over the course of a few more games, this will all look a lot clearer and work itself out.

Exactly.

On the flip side, as they point out in the article, his receivers have dropped 7 passes and if those had been caught, his QB rating would be in the 90s, he would have about 131 yards more in passing and at least one more TD (Dion Sims).

In other words, it is still early.

[CF DolFan]

Exactly.

On the flip side, as they point out in the article, his receivers have dropped 7 passes and if those had been caught, his QB rating would be in the 90s, he would have about 131 yards more in passing and at least one more TD (Dion Sims).

In other words, it is still early.

That would make sense to take into consideration. Same rule for INTs and sacks ... everyone isn't judged equally because of variables.

[Rich]

That would make sense to take into consideration. Same rule for INTs and sacks ... everyone isn't judged equally because of variables.

Yep, some sacks are due to poor pass protection or a good pass rush, some sacks are to receivers not getting open or great coverage and some sacks are due to QBs not reading the defense quickly enough etc...