Where is the Adrian Peterson talk?

[Phishfan]

I can't believe no one is bringing this up, especially since our Ray Rice conversation went so many pages. I myself was holding out the benefit of the doubt as I believe a properly executed spanking can be a proper parenting tool (although I understand the definition of proper execution is very subjective). I finally looked to see the picture today and what Peterson did is absolutely over the line. This kid is four years old and had multiple open wounds from the lashes. How do you think this is going to play out?

As a side note, I have a friend who had AP and Rice on the same fantasy team.

[Dave Gray]

I think that we, the NFL, and everyone has kinda learned their lesson from the Ray Rice stuff.  I just don't want to take a stance and vilify a guy before there's evidence released.

On top of it, I think that this is a much grayer issue.  While we can mostly all agree that knocking out your fiance is bad, I bet you'll find a lot of people who will support Peterson's ability to punish his child with a switch.

[EKnight]

I feel like I heard or read somewhere that it's going to be handled under the domestic violence rule. If that's the case, I expect a 6 game ban. I know that it's AP and he's superhuman as a RB, but it wouldn't shock me if he got the Ray Rice treatment as well.

Side note- I have Jamal Charles and AJ Green on my team. Bad day for injuries yesterday.

Edit to add- now there's talk that they may try to trade him, but won't release him. -EK

[MikeO]

CBS pregame show came alive on this topic yesterday.  Boomer Esiason wants him banned for life. Charles Barkley said he did nothing wrong and it's a southern thing people in the south do to their kids sometimes...lol

I know what I would do if in charge but this is the NFL.  I think a fair agreement is he sits the rest of the season until this sorts itself out. But who knows this league is run by lunatics he will be out there in a week or 2 probably

[MikeO]

Just was announced. ...AP is playing this week for the  Vikings.

Gotta love the NFL!  What a joke

[Spider-Dan]

Here's the thing: domestic violence (between adults) is completely illegal, while corporal punishment is a dearly-held sovereign right of American parents.  So if you want to outlaw corporal punishment, then by all means... but until then, AP is not guilty of beating his child, but merely of beating his child too hard.

I mean, when you see stuff like this, where a judge repeatedly whips his 16-year-old daughter with a belt and doesn't even lose his job (much less face charges), what are we really talking about here?

[Dave Gray]

^ That's my ultimate point here.  It's not what AP did.  It's just to what effect he did it. 

I choose not to spank my daughter, because I don't want to open that can of worms.  But lots of parents do.

[Spider-Dan]

If we are to compare apples to apples, the current dialogue on Ray Rice would have to be:

"Well, I don't think we should be telling people how to run their lives... if Janay Palmer got out of line, Ray Rice has a right to be able to tune her up.  He is the head of the household, after all.  But he went way over the line; he punched her in the head, when a slap or two would have worked just fine."

Somehow, I don't see that conversation happening anytime soon.

[Dave Gray]

It's not really apples to apples, though, because the consensus is that zero physical "correction" of your spouse is acceptable.  But certains levels are acceptable to your kids.

[Spider-Dan]

Well, yes.

That was my point.

[MikeO]

I guess Peterson has beaten his other 4 year old kid from a different mother as well and left a scar on his face

http://deadspin.com/adrian-peterson-accused-of-beating-another-son-leaving-1635102727

Yet the NFL will let him play this week...unreal

[Brian Fein]

Keep peeling the onion, you're bound to find something.

I guess my parents should both be doing 25 to life for all the wooden spoons and belts I got beat with when I was a kid. My mom had a yardstick in the car so she could more easily reach us in the back seat.

[masterfins]

^^^ What Peterson did was more than a spanking with a hand, spoon, or belt.  It was abuse.  When the skin is broken in multiple places, and the child has bruises in various places, that's more than a punishment.  And lets not forget this was a FOUR YEAR OLD, not a ten or twelve year old kid.  If he did the same to his wife there is not a police officer in the United States that wouldn't arrest him for domestic battery, so why would it be okay to do it to a defenseless 4 year old??  The sad thing is that Peterson thinks what he did was okay.

[Spider-Dan]

He thinks what he did was OK because there are people in this country who will insist that spanking with a hand, spoon, or belt is acceptable in moderation.

If he used a belt on his wife, whether he left marks or not, he would be instantly thrown in jail.  If he used a belt on his kid, as long as he didn't leave any marks, We Must Not Tell Him How To Raise His Child.

Reap what you sow.  I encourage you to look at the video I linked above.

[Dave Gray]

Well, yes.

That was my point.

I see.  I am dumb, apparently.