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« on: September 01, 2015, 10:21:04 am »

I'm getting multiple reports the Dolphins decided to part ways with Brandon Fields.  Apparently they think Matt Darr can get the job done
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2015, 10:21:34 am »

we should never punt anyways ..
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2015, 11:12:11 am »

Never Punt.  even on 4th and 15 on your own 5 yard line.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2015, 11:15:30 am »

Never Punt.  even on 4th and 15 on your own 5 yard line.
Dang ... defense is good but that's balls of steel there!!

BTW ... I know you were joking.

Surprising they would cut him when it only saves them less than 600K. He was a very solid punter.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2015, 11:27:01 am »

Dang ... defense is good but that's balls of steel there!!

BTW ... I know you were joking.


I'm not REALLY joking.  We punt far, far too much.  It rarely makes statistical sense to punt unless you're in your own territory and it's 4th and long.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2015, 11:27:37 am »

^^ Thought I read Fields was making like 4 million.  Darr can't be making THAT much.

Maybe Darr is the next Reggie Roby.  Just hope he can hold for FG's.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2015, 11:41:26 am »

Not a fan of this decision.  I know he made the Pro Bowl last in 2013 and I did go back and look at his stats from last year and he didn't seem</i all that bad, I thinking ranking 11th at the worst in some key statistics.

Just hope this doesn't come back to bite us in the ass.  He also holds for Sturgis, so this a potential issue as well.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2015, 11:47:34 am »

Never Punt.  even on 4th and 15 on your own 5 yard line.

What is the likelihood that if you do punt your defense will prevent the other team from scoring? If you punt from your own 5 the other team takes over with great field position and will likely score a touch down.  

These are made up numbers....

But lets say that if you turn the ball over on downs at the 5 the other team has....

90% chance of scoring a TD
5% chance of scoring a FG
5% chance of not scoring.

And if you punt the other team has.....(keep in mind punting from the 5 puts the other team in great field position and their is decent chance at a blocked punt.)  

75% chance of scoring a TD
10% chance of scoring a FG
15% chance of not scoring.

And if you go for it you have a 30% chance of converting on 4th down.  

Should you go for it?

Based on the laws of probability.... absolutely.  Even if your odds of converting is only 15% you are still better going for it.  

Keep in mind these numbers are made up but are quite plausible.    

Not punting offers other advantages as well.  

(1) Greater play selection on third down.  You can now treat 3rd down the same way you treat 2nd.  
(2) Easier to pound and ground.  Rather than needing an avg of 3.3 yards per carry you only need 2.5.
(3) One more player available for defense or offense.

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2015, 12:39:36 pm »

It's worth carrying a punter and punting for 4th and 10+ situations or where you're backed up so far in your own end that the TD chance is super-high -- like inside your own 20.  But otherwise, you almost always go for it -- especially near midfield, which is where a lot of punting happens.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2015, 02:17:17 pm »

I hate when teams punt from the offensive side of the 50.  Like you're driving, get to the 40 yard line, and don't wanna try the 57-yard bomb FG?  GO FOR IT!  There's that "no man's land between the offensive 35-50 yard line where the punter should never be brought on the field.  Most times, it ends in a touchback and they only move it 15-20 yards.  Its more valuable to take the shot with your offense than fight over 15 yards of field position
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2015, 02:39:08 pm »

^^ Thought I read Fields was making like 4 million.  Darr can't be making THAT much.

Maybe Darr is the next Reggie Roby.  Just hope he can hold for FG's.

According to Omar his salary is split up ...

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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2015, 04:02:20 pm »

What is the likelihood that if you do punt your defense will prevent the other team from scoring?

These are made up numbers....

Keep in mind these numbers are made up but are quite plausible.    

Those "made up numbers" would only be plausible if you had based them on "actual numbers." As it stands, they may as well be random numbers drawn out of a hat.

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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2015, 06:23:56 pm »

saw this coming for weeks. Darr is solid and makes far less money.

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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2015, 07:53:02 pm »

And if you punt the other team has.....(keep in mind punting from the 5 puts the other team in great field position and their is decent chance at a blocked punt.)  

75% chance of scoring a TD
10% chance of scoring a FG
15% chance of not scoring.

And if you go for it you have a 30% chance of converting on 4th down.  

Should you go for it?

Based on the laws of probability.... absolutely.  Even if your odds of converting is only 15% you are still better going for it.  

Keep in mind these numbers are made up but are quite plausible.    
No they aren't. They are a long way from plausible. Punting from your own 5 probably results in a TD for the opposing team less than 50% of the time and you have a far less chance of making a 4th and 15 than 30%. It's probably more like 5 or 10%. The odds are NOT with you. Heck the odds are probably better that if you punt the ball, they will not score and give the ball back to you with better field position than if you were to go for it on 4th down and make it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2015, 08:51:01 pm »

RUMOR going around is Sturgis is a goner too and the Fins are going with ALL ROOKIE kickers.

This will either be a big boom or be a huge bust for the Fins
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