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« on: November 15, 2015, 11:08:02 am »

Did anyone else see this?  Holm picked her apart then knocked her the fuck out!  That kick was beautiful. One of the biggest upsets in UFC history.

I said to my friends before the fight started that if it stays on the feet, Holm could win. It looked like Ronda wanted to prove something on the feet, but that was a mistake. Holm is a champion boxer.
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2015, 11:41:22 am »

I saw it. Rousey has her lip split in half and it had to be sewed back together and she told people close to her a few hours after the loss  that she is retiring.

I'm sure the $$$$ of the rematch might change her mind about that but I was sooooooooo happy to see Ronda lose
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2015, 03:57:55 pm »

Rousey was a "Hype Train" that was derailed.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2015, 06:40:26 pm »

Rousey can now enter the Gina Carano phase of her career.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2015, 09:52:04 pm »

Rousey chased her and continually got hit in the face. Maybe she should have trained more and stayed off the tv so much.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 06:10:51 am »

I think Rousey got too caught up in her own press clippings and forgot what her one trick is.

Because she has been able to outbox the Subway employees they've been throwing at her, she was under the impression that she is a legitimate striker; she is not.  She is a world-class judoka with a nearly-unstoppable armbar.  Her attempts to fight on her feet will not work against a quality striker.  Even in the second fight against Miesha Tate, she was losing in the standup... but for some unfathomable reason, Tate kept diving in trying to take Rousey down.

I'm just glad to see someone shut Rousey up.  I'm sick of her making her mean girl face and her endless trash talking.  Let's see how much she has to say now.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 08:15:13 am »

Don't try to outbox a boxer. If your strength is judo, get her in the clinch and get her on the ground.

Holm wanted to piece of Rousey on the ground, but Rousey wanted a piece of Holm on her feet. That decided the fight.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2015, 09:24:19 am »

This fight was rigged IMO. Rousey isn't a stranger to getting hit or even beaten in the judo world and she had already planned to walk away from fighting for a while.  Lot's of people thought she was acting strange at the weigh-ins and I'm betting she was just over selling it.   The rematch will make her more money than all of her other fights combined. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2015, 10:00:46 am »

This fight was rigged IMO. Rousey isn't a stranger to getting hit or even beaten in the judo world and she had already planned to walk away from fighting for a while.  Lot's of people thought she was acting strange at the weigh-ins and I'm betting she was just over selling it.   The rematch will make her more money than all of her other fights combined. 
Rigged?  I think that's a stretch.  Rousey thought she was a better striker than a champion boxer.  That's called having a big head. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2015, 10:31:22 am »

Rousey is a world-class Judo fighter, but her stand-up game has serious holes.  Credit to Rousey for being so good at one aspect of the game, but her ability to be so dominant is also due to the women's game just not being up to par yet.  There isn't a pool of well-rounded fighters that can beat Ronda at stand-up, while simultaneously having enough still to fend off her ground attacks.

This fight is great for the UFC.  It shows, more than anything, that there's a crop of female fighters coming up that will have a variety of skills.  You saw the same thing in the men's game, where Royce Gracie was dominant by taking dudes who would normally beat his ass and clinging to them in positions they just weren't equipped to handle.  Eventually, those guys caught up and if you don't have a stand-up game, too, you're going to find it very difficult to win.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2015, 07:13:56 pm »

This fight was about who could fight to their strengths. Rousey tried three times to get Holm on the ground or in a submission move, and did not succeed. Holm picked her apart standing. Had Rousey gotten Holm on the ground and been able to establish position, this fight would have ended earlier.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2015, 09:00:03 am »

I always find it laughable when folks think an accomplished martial artist doesn't understand the art of striking.  Rousey is a 4th Dan, which is exceptionally high.  To believe her art taught her only holds, locks and sweeps would mean you simply don't understand Judo (yes, it's one of the arts I study).

Holm isn't a pure boxer and didn't beat Rousey standing toe to toe with her, ala Clubber Lang.  Holm really elevated her own game and, prior to that beautiful kick - Holm also managed to escape a takedown, an arm bar, landed two sweet backhand elbows (she is getting all this pub for her straight jabs, I don't think Rousey was right after the first back fist, a new trick up Holm's sleeve).

Rousey is a perfectly capable striker who prefers to go to the mat; there is a difference between that and "she can't strike."  In this case she committed the ultimate sin no black belt worth their salt should ever commit: underestimating the skills of their opponent.  While everyone saw the big kick and punches, it was the little things Holms worked into this match, items Rousey wasn't expecting, that got her the "W."  Rousey was expecting, and ready, for the "big guns."

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2015, 11:48:25 am »

So here's a blog post from 4 months ago:

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/killing-the-queen-ronda-rousey

In this blog post, the author describes exactly what he believes a fighter should do to beat Rousey; he picks apart the holes in her game and gives a strategy to exploit them.

It practically reads like a play-by-play of the fight on Saturday.  He called everything that Holm did.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2015, 02:16:38 pm »

I like this gif of Rousey's boxing form:

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