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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2015, 12:17:47 pm »
So if this happened to the Dolphins, you would all be okay with it?
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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2015, 12:21:19 pm »
You mean if our QB was a blatant cheater and they tried to suspend him?  Yes, I would be fine with that.

The Dolphins have been screwed a bunch of times, most recently in the Buffalo game.  Taylor's TD pass to Watkins should never have happened bc of the blatant hold on Suh that wasn't called (you know it's bad when even the announcers say how horrible the no call was), and also their "fumble" out of the end zone that wasn't called a touchback.  Is it fair?  No.  Is it a conspiracy?  You would have to be a nut job to think so.
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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2015, 01:09:09 pm »
if the league was out to screw the PAtriots, Odell Beckham's not-catch catch would have been a TD.  You're accusations are unfounded.

Bad calls happen in every game.  Conspiracy theory is ridiculous.  Show me how the running clock that you consider a "Bad call" was against the rules.  please cite specific text from the NFL rule book that was incorrectly implemented.
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2015, 05:35:25 pm »
I just saw the holding call on Chung, and I nearly fell out of my chair.
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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2015, 04:08:39 pm »
Happened again today.

The refs robbed NE on that coin toss.

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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2015, 04:34:08 pm »
Jesus. I'm sorry your favorite team lost, but they clearly said they wanted to kickoff. I don't understand how getting what you asked for is getting screwed. 
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2015, 04:44:34 pm »
Will have to look at it again, but it seemed like the ref decided for them.

I AM NOT A PATRIOTS FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM AN OBJECTIVE MIAMI DOLPHINS FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2015, 08:03:43 pm »
Belichick said after the game that he wanted to kick. What's the problem? (other than it being a strange decision in the first place)
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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2015, 08:27:01 pm »
I retract my statement.  The correct ruling was made. 

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« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2015, 04:18:12 am »
It was a head scratching decision but that's what BB wanted.
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« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2015, 09:27:16 am »
Actually I like the mindset. BB felt he couldn't drive 80 yards to score with his offense so beat up so he played hoping his defense could help him with field position and would only need a FG to win. You have to like a guy who is thinking things through and willing to go against the norm ... although it didn't pan out in this situation.
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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2015, 02:24:01 am »
The problem is that the Patriots' captain was not properly coached (!!) on how to respond to the referee's question after the coin toss.

When you win a coin toss, you have the option to choose to kick or receive, choose which goal to defend, or defer your choice until the second half.  Since there is no second half in regular-season OT, deferring is pointless.  So you should be choosing to receive, or choosing which goal to defend.  But instead of picking a goal to defend, the NE captain was baited by the referee's leading question of "Do you want to kick?" (which NE did), and he chose to kick instead of choosing a goal and letting NYJ choose to kick or receive.

However, if you think this outcome was bad, Belichick should be glad this didn't happen at the start of the game.  If that had happened at the opening coin toss, the result would have been that NE chose to kick, NYJ receives the ball and picks a goal, and then at the start of the second half, NYJ chooses to receive AGAIN (because NE used their first-half choice to kick the ball) and NE picks a goal to defend.

So NE actually came out pretty damn good, relative to how bad the outcome could have been on that kind of mistake.
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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2015, 02:41:18 am »
Spider the flaw in your analysis is there was no mistake.   BB instructions were to elect to kick.  There was no wind, Bb didn't care which goal he defended.  He didn't want to choose the side and then have the jets choose to kick.  The only error was Slater did think the Patriots would be able to choose sides, but that is  a tiny misunderstanding.   
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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2015, 10:35:51 am »
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« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2015, 01:09:23 pm »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on December 29, 2015, 02:24:01 am
The problem is that the Patriots' captain was not properly coached (!!) on how to respond to the referee's question after the coin toss.

When you win a coin toss, you have the option to choose to kick or receive, choose which goal to defend, or defer your choice until the second half.  Since there is no second half in regular-season OT, deferring is pointless.  So you should be choosing to receive, or choosing which goal to defend.  But instead of picking a goal to defend, the NE captain was baited by the referee's leading question of "Do you want to kick?" (which NE did), and he chose to kick instead of choosing a goal and letting NYJ choose to kick or receive.

However, if you think this outcome was bad, Belichick should be glad this didn't happen at the start of the game.  If that had happened at the opening coin toss, the result would have been that NE chose to kick, NYJ receives the ball and picks a goal, and then at the start of the second half, NYJ chooses to receive AGAIN (because NE used their first-half choice to kick the ball) and NE picks a goal to defend.

So NE actually came out pretty damn good, relative to how bad the outcome could have been on that kind of mistake.
I thought they changed that rule?  Wasn't it Detroit who kicked off twice?
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