NFL Draft Notes

[Fau Teixeira]

So tampa bay just traded a 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder in order to trade ahead of new england to draft a kicker in the 2nd round.

whaaaaaaaaaa???

[Sunstroke]

Seems a little extreme, but it isn't just any kicker. It's Roberto Aguayo, and he is arguably the most accurate kicker of a football since...the invention of the football.

With the new extra point rules, a kicker that is pretty much a lock to hit every one of them...and pretty much all of the FGs as well, has value.

Still...a kicker in round two?

[Sunstroke]

Instead of using Walter Payton award winners or old school HoFers for the upcoming Browns and Jaguars picks, could we get Josh Gordon and Justin Blackmon to announce the selections? The NFL Network could do a remote feed for them from outside a marijuana dispensary in Denver...

[BuccaneerBrad]

They could've had him early in the third round.  Licht, who looked like a genius in the first two rounds, just dropped a huge turd in the punch bowl.   

This guy better be another Janikowski.  That's the only way this pick is a wise investment

[Sunstroke]

Licht, who looked like a genius in the first two rounds, just dropped a huge turd in the punch bowl.

This guy better be another Janikowski.  That's the only way this pick is a wise investment

Then count it as a wise investment, because he really is better than Sea Bass. The moment he steps on an NFL field, he will be one of the best boots in the league, if not "the" best.

Your Bucs have grabbed three excellent players so far...the punch is still safe to drink.

[Baba Booey]

they are now paying a kicker 2nd round draft pick money and they gave up draft picks to trade up to get him when the last kicker drafted this high was Mike Nugent god knows how many years ago. That is laughing stock of the league material stuff right there

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Yeah, I can't argue about the trading of extra picks...that seemed a bit excessive.

The 2nd round salary thing isn't really a thing at all. The total estimated contract value for that slot is a hair over $4 million. If Tampa had waited until their pick in round 3, that slot is estimated at just over $3.3 million. So, the difference over the entire life of the contract is less than $750k. If Tampa is as sure as I am about Aguayo's NFL future, and they thought one of the 14 teams between #60-#73 was going to snatch him up, then what the hell...go get the player you want.

[BuccaneerBrad]

^^^ Yeah, I can't argue about the trading of extra picks...that seemed a bit excessive.

The 2nd round salary thing isn't really a thing at all. The total estimated contract value for that slot is a hair over $4 million. If Tampa had waited until their pick in round 3, that slot is estimated at just over $3.3 million. So, the difference over the entire life of the contract is less than $750k. If Tampa is as sure as I am about Aguayo's NFL future, and they thought one of the 14 teams between #60-#73 was going to snatch him up, then what the hell...go get the player you want.

Alot of experts aren't thinking the way Tampa was thinking.  Almost all projections had him going in the early 4th round.  That being the case, the Bucs didn't have to trade up to get him.   They could've gotten Bullard in the third, then had two fourth rounders to use and he probably would've still been there

[Sunstroke]

You could be right...but we'll never know. Congratulations on getting an awesome kicker.

[dolphins4life]

Kicking is so underrated.  I don't know why you people don't seem to realize that. 

To me, it would be worth a second round pick for somebody could guarantee that almost every time you score, the opponent has to start at the twenty on their next drive.

To say nothing about distance and accuracy.  Imagine how less pressure is on an offense knowing that if reach the 38 yard line, you are almost guaranteed to score.

In this case, I don't know much about this kicker, so I don't know if this guy is that kind of kicker.  The Bucs will find out. 

From Miami's history, I do know how critical kicking is.  It cost the Dolphins playoff berths in 2002, 2003, 2005, possibly 2006, 2012, and 2013. 

[Tenshot13]

^HEY!  What do you mean, "you people"?

[Baba Booey]

From Miami's history, I do know how critical kicking is.  It cost the Dolphins playoff berths in 2002, 2003, 2005, possibly 2006, 2012, and 2013. 

WTF?

[BuccaneerBrad]

You could be right...but we'll never know. Congratulations on getting an awesome kicker.

Won't argue with that

[Sunstroke]

Kicking is so underrated.  I don't know why you people don't seem to realize that. 

In this case, I don't know much about this kicker, so I don't know if this guy is that kind of kicker.  The Bucs will find out. 

In 3 years at Florida State, Roberto Aguayo lined up to kick either a field goal or an extra point 276 times. He made the kick 267 times. 198 for 198 on extra points and 69 of 78 on field goals. He leaves Florida State as the most accurate kicker in NCAA history.

[dolphins4life]

^^^^

I will look up his splits later today about distance.

I will also have to look up what his kickoffs were.  Janikowski was the kind of kicker who could guarantee a touchback.