It's official: Hillary vs. Trump

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

i had forgotten about the clinton death squads. They're comprised of jason Bourne style hit men. The fact that there's no proof is in itself proof that they are just that good.  That and the liberal media knows all about the Bourne squads and just refuses to report on them.

It's getting to the point that Hillary will literally be compared to Emperor Palpatine and uses the dark side of the force to kill DNC leaks.

Would you expect anything less than that style smear campaign from some who literally calls for a religious test for immigration, racial disqualification for judges, want to greatly curtail the rights of a free press and free speech, claims to know more about conducting a war than the generals, will not rule out using nuclear weapons, has called for his supporters to assault those protesting his rally, will not honor our NATO treaty, has called for increased use of torcher and the killing of the families of terrorists?         

[Spider-Dan]

I said that both of their statements were made to be something they weren't by the other party and then were subsequently clarified by them.

Paul Ryan thought it was a reference to assassination and thought it was a joke in poor taste.
Even Trump's own spokesperson said that Trump was referring to something "he didn't want to see happen."
So clearly there is some wiggle room in what his intentions were.

I think this tweet sums up this whole thing nicely:

"One thing about being POTUS is poorly phrased or indiscreet words can cause market meltdowns or international incidents."

If your statements can be interpreted by people in your own party as maybe being commentary on assassinating political rivals, perhaps you're not cut out for the job.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

In other news the wall between the USA and Mexico will need to be 22 stories tall. 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/trump-tower-suction-cups/index.html

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

WOW! Do you really believe

Ronald Reagan's daughter does. 

[CF DolFan]

Ronald Reagan's daughter does. 

Who is she? I mean ... the liberal who spent most of her life estranged from the family. She hated her parents but latched on when Daddy got sick.

It's kind of like Bill Cosby. When the first few women came out I didn't blink an eye but sooner or later number start to add up you have to realize there is something there.

As well, the wiki leaks confirm a lot of what the conspirators have been saying but somehow Democrats pretend that doesn't matter and "who" hacked or leaked is the only thing that matters. Trust me ... I know I'm not changing anyone's opinion. People don't look for truth they look for confirmation to what they already believe. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

As well, the wiki leaks confirm a lot of what the conspirators have been saying but somehow Democrats pretend that doesn't matter and "who" hacked or leaked is the only thing that matters. Trust me ... I know I'm not changing anyone's opinion. People don't look for truth they look for confirmation to what they already believe. 

Two issues content and the hacking. Both are important lets take them one at a time:

Content -- As a Bernie supporter the wiki leaks did confirm for me what I already knew the Debbie Wasserman and the DNC where biased and prefered Clinton over Sanders and did what they could to help Clinton.  I knew this long before the email leak.  That was not news.  I also know that Reince Priebus and the RNC are biased and wanted literally anybody other than Trump as their nominee. 

On that score the DNC and RNC is no different the is only differences are the DNC was more effective (Debbie got who she wanted, Reince didn't) and we have an email trail with the DNC and not the RNC.  But anyone who thinks that the RNC did not show as much if not more bias in this election than the dems is delusional. Hardly a reason to switch my party affiliation from D to R.  It could be a valid reason for some to embrace Stein or Johnson, but not enough for me to leave the party.  But is not at all relevant in a discussion of Dem v Rep or HRC vs DJT.  As for me I am supporting Tim Canova in his primary bid against Wasserman, because of this.   

I am some what bothered by the DNCs lack of fair play and not offering my candidate and even playing field.  But political parties having favorites is the norm not the exception and is completely legal.  I would like to see that change, but the release of emails really didn't expose anything we already didn't know or something that is unique to one party or one election cycle.  Nor did I expect when Sander's launched his primary bid that the democratic party was going to treat someone who is NOT A DEMOCRAT on equal footing with a lifelong Democrat with many friends inside the DNC. 

The hack -- Unlike the obvious bias the hacking into the DNC was criminal activity.  And who committed that crime is relevant.  Based on the timing of the release it is obvious that it was done to hurt Clinton and help Trump (as opposed to if it had been released weeks earlier when the hack occurred it potentially could have resulted in a Sander's nomination.) So whoever did this was not looking for justice for the disaffected Sander's supporters but looking to aid Trump.  If Trump or the RNC was behind this than this would be an electronic version of Nixon and Watergate.  So I would like to know who hacked and why. 

 

[Spider-Dan]

Who is she? I mean ... the liberal who spent most of her life estranged from the family. She hated her parents but latched on when Daddy got sick.

It's kind of like Bill Cosby. When the first few women came out I didn't blink an eye but sooner or later number start to add up you have to realize there is something there.

So does this mean that as more Republicans denounce Trump, you have to realize that they have a point, or what...?  I don't really understand the Cosby reference.

As well, the wiki leaks confirm a lot of what the conspirators have been saying but somehow Democrats pretend that doesn't matter and "who" hacked or leaked is the only thing that matters.

In this case, the "conspirators" are Bernie supporters who think the election was stolen from them.  I am somewhat skeptical that you would actually prefer Bernie to be the Dem nominee, so your sympathy for the Bernie Bros seems like alligator tears.

Again, I also find it bizarre that you can so casually jump from these e-mails being a Russian hack to it being an insider leak without missing a beat.  If these e-mails were hacked by the Russians (as even Trump was saying a couple weeks ago), why did the Clinton Death Squads kill Seth Rich?  After all, the death squads don't just kill people indiscriminately... so since we know he was killed by the death squads, I guess he must have been a political target because he must have also leaked the e-mails that Russia hacked!  Mystery solved.

[Tenshot13]

You guys are ridiculous.  At least you're consistent with your hippocracy.

"Clinton Death Squad?  That's ridiculous!"

"TRUMP SAYS FOR GUN RIGHTS PEOPLE TO KILL HILLARY!"

"TRUMP WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DNC HACK!"

How can you all talk out both sides of your mouths like that?

[Pappy13]

Can we just send Donald to Afghanistan because every time he opens his mouth a grenade drops out. 

[Spider-Dan]

In the latest episode of Both Sides Do It, we are now expected to believe that the following events are equivalent:

- Republican nominee makes comments on "Second Amendment people" stopping Hillary and her appointed judges; comments that are condemned by mainstream outlets (including Republicans) as implying that she could be assassinated
- the Clintons are accused of actually having a DNC staffer murdered because he leaked campaign e-mails (e-mails that were also hacked by Russia?)

No one here said Trump was responsible for hacking the DNC.  Furthermore, such an accusation is incompatible with the claim that the DNC e-mails were not hacked at all, but were actually leaked by an insider.

You know, the insider that the Clintons had killed.  By their death squads.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

No one here said Trump was responsible for hacking the DNC. 

I am not saying Trump was responsible for hacking the DNC.  I am just saying people have wondered about the timing of the release.  I am not saying anything, I am just hearing people talk and people are wondering about it. Believe me the people want to know whats going on and who hacked the DNC.  I don't know who hacked the DNC.  But people are talking about how the hack benifited Trump.  Believe me.  Its bigly.  I am  not saying he was behind it.  I am just saying a lot of people are wondering if he was behind it.  I am not saying it.  I don't know. 

[Tenshot13]

In the latest episode of Both Sides Do It, we are now expected to believe that the following events are equivalent:
In the latest episode of Hipocracy, here and now...

- Republican nominee makes comments on "Second Amendment people" stopping Hillary and her appointed judges; comments that are condemned by mainstream outlets (including Republicans) as implying that she could be assassinated -- You're assuming and projecting.  "Hillary wants to abolish -- essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know,"

2nd amendment:  A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
There is belief that Hillary will infringe those rights.  Who can do something about that?  2nd amendment people?  That's a logical conclusion.  Assuming they are going to kill her is not.

- the Clintons are accused of actually having a DNC staffer murdered because he leaked campaign e-mails (e-mails that were also hacked by Russia?)--Exactly, my point.  It's a ridiculous statement, no more than Trump wants Hillary assassinated.

No one here said Trump was responsible for hacking the DNC.  Furthermore, such an accusation is incompatible with the claim that the DNC e-mails were not hacked at all, but were actually leaked by an insider.--
Really?  No one here?

...The hack -- Unlike the obvious bias the hacking into the DNC was criminal activity.  And who committed that crime is relevant.  Based on the timing of the release it is obvious that it was done to hurt Clinton and help Trump (as opposed to if it had been released weeks earlier when the hack occurred it potentially could have resulted in a Sander's nomination.) So whoever did this was not looking for justice for the disaffected Sander's supporters but looking to aid Trump.  If Trump or the RNC was behind this than this would be an electronic version of Nixon and Watergate... 

Seems like someone did say that.

[Tenshot13]

I am not saying Trump was responsible for hacking the DNC.  I am just saying people have wondered about the timing of the release.  I am not saying anything, I am just hearing people talk and people are wondering about it. Believe me the people want to know whats going on and who hacked the DNC.  I don't know who hacked the DNC.  But people are talking about how the hack benifited Trump.  Believe me.  Its bigly.  I am  not saying he was behind it.  I am just saying a lot of people are wondering if he was behind it.  I am not saying it.  I don't know. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I wasn't backpeddling I was doing a trump impersonation. 

[Tenshot13]

I wasn't backpeddling I was doing a trump impersonation. 

Made me laugh, so I'll give you props.