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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2017, 02:12:31 pm »

This will drive some of you crazy. Ref's missed an easy call that helped NE late 4th quarter on the 2 pt try

https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/828641755365048326

No they did not.

Read the comments.  That is a legal block because they are both within one yard of the line of scrimmage.

That was like the Seahawks play two years ago.

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 02:15:58 pm »

Article 4. Other Prohibited Acts By the Offense

Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference. See 8-3-1 for exception for an ineligible offensive player.

Note: It is also pass interference by the offense to block a defender beyond the line while the pass is in the air, if the block occurs in the vicinity of the player to whom the pass is thrown. See 8-3-1-Note for exception for ineligible players.


There are two Patriots receivers engaged in a block in the vicinity of Amendola.

For the record, offsides on ATL was also called on that play, so at worst it would have been a replayed down.

Why wasn't the Seahawks play called OPI then?

Of course teams would only run an illegal play against the Patriots in that situation. 
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2017, 02:18:38 pm »

Of course Miami got more than its share of luck this year.

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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2017, 02:18:47 pm »

No they did not.

Read the comments.  That is a legal block because they are both within one yard of the line of scrimmage.

That was like the Seahawks play two years ago.



Not even close. You are wrong like always
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2017, 02:23:20 pm »

The Falcons had that game literally in the bag and handed it away.

Like many teams do against New England.



You are starting with the wrong premise, that the games in which New England has come from behind were over.  They obviously weren't.

What makes New England a perennial championship caliber team is no game is ever over.  Too many teams either quit when they are up by 3 scores and start celebrating or quit in defeat when the are down by 3 scores.

B.B. attitude when up by 3 posssesions lets make it a 4 possession game.  If down by 3 make it a 2 possession game.  
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2017, 02:26:58 pm »

No they did not.

Read the comments.  That is a legal block because they are both within one yard of the line of scrimmage.

That was like the Seahawks play two years ago.
Read the rules I just posted.  If you are beyond the line of scrimmage AT ALL, you MAY NOT block in the vicinity of a reception.

I have no interest in re-litigating what you think may have happened in some other game.  The picture that was posted shows two NE receivers clearly beyond the line of scrimmage engaged in blocks in the vicinity of a reception.  That is textbook offensive pass interference.
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2017, 02:41:19 pm »

Look at the picture more closely.  In one case it is not clear who is blocking who.  But in one case it is very clear that the falcons player is blocking pats from getting to the end zone rather than pats player blocking the falcons player from getting to the receiver. 

Notice how the patriots players arms are down and the falcons player has his wrapped around the NE player.  If anything that photo shows defensive holding.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2017, 02:47:44 pm »

Viewing this from a neutral standpoint -

The pass was behind the LOS so isn't blocking downfield allowed?

Plus, ATL ran a similar play with no call.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4AVCbEVMAA5rbQ.jpg:large

So it all seems legit to me.
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2017, 02:49:08 pm »

Viewing this from a neutral standpoint -

The pass was behind the LOS so isn't blocking downfield allowed?

Plus, ATL ran a similar play with no call.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4AVCbEVMAA5rbQ.jpg:large

So it all seems legit to me.

No, and that has been covered a couple times.

Note: It is also pass interference by the offense to block a defender beyond the line while the pass is in the air, if the block occurs in the vicinity of the player to whom the pass is thrown.
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2017, 03:48:53 pm »

You are starting with the wrong premise, that the games in which New England has come from behind were over.  They obviously weren't.

What makes New England a perennial championship caliber team is no game is ever over.  Too many teams either quit when they are up by 3 scores and start celebrating or quit in defeat when the are down by 3 scores.

B.B. attitude when up by 3 posssesions lets make it a 4 possession game.  If down by 3 make it a 2 possession game.  
BUT NE WAS ONLY A .0000000000000000000000001% FAVORITE TO WIN AT THE START OF THE 4TH QUARTER!!!!!!
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2017, 04:02:57 pm »

This missed call was just unbelievable.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/5/14518320/super-bowl-2017-penalty-atlanta-falcons-facemask-new-england-patriots

Seriously, what were the refs looking at to miss the facemask?
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2017, 04:22:49 pm »

I can't even count how many times I watched a Patriots game this year where the outside blocker is holding outside contain, which in turn breaks a big play to the outside with no call...Superbowl included.
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2017, 04:56:55 pm »

This missed call was just unbelievable.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/5/14518320/super-bowl-2017-penalty-atlanta-falcons-facemask-new-england-patriots

Seriously, what were the refs looking at to miss the facemask?

I thought the same thing during the play but look at the video closely. Sanu is also grabbing the Patriots facemask while trying to give a stiff arm. At best, there should have been three penalties during this play, resulting in a replay of the down.
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2017, 05:47:34 pm »

I thought the same thing during the play but look at the video closely. Sanu is also grabbing the Patriots facemask while trying to give a stiff arm. At best, there should have been three penalties during this play, resulting in a replay of the down.

Wrong again, that is a facemask on the FALCONS because the receiver rips off the defenders helmet. 

Here's a tip. If you want to complain about a bad call.

1) It has to be clearly wrong

2) It has to dramatically impact the game.

For example, an offensive pass interference call that is clearly incorrect with 4:30 in the second quarter of a game in which you are leading 21-3 and driving inside the twenty, that stops the drive and allows the other team to cut the deficit to 21-6 at the half instead of being down 24-3 or more likely 28-3 at the half.

THAT is a game altering call. 
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2017, 06:07:03 pm »

I can't even count how many times I watched a Patriots game this year where the outside blocker is holding outside contain, which in turn breaks a big play to the outside with no call...Superbowl included.

The Patriots could have won at least two and possibly three Super Bowls if not clearly bad officiating. 
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