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« on: March 04, 2017, 07:26:10 am »

He got into an apparent heated argument with medical staff and was subsequently sent home. If you know anything about the combine it's definitely to test your mental toughness. I wonder if this could help him fall to the Dolphins ala Laremy Tunsil?
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2017, 07:47:34 am »

He isn't falling to 22. And Tunsil being great last year hurts Miami now. As another team in front of us will just say, see Tunsil ended up being fine its worth the risk and they will take Foster. Especially a team with 2 first round picks (both in front of ours) like Cleveland and Tenn.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2017, 08:50:54 am »

It could result in him falling.  But often when players fall, they fall for a reason.  For every Tunsil there are multiple  Jonny Manzels. 

Combine is a job interview, decent chance what ever team drafts him winds up regretting it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2017, 11:44:51 am »

A good way to make a bad first impression to your employers
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 01:06:44 pm »

A good way to make a bad first impression to your employers

If he had gotten into a heated argument with coaches or other players, then I'd be 100% in agreement with ya. However, this argument was with the medical staff, which leads me to believe that they told him he couldn't participate, due to some small injury. The fact that he got upset about it could make personnel folks think "Hey, here's a guy who wants to play through the pain..."

I really can't see any way he drops to #22 though, despite my early-early predictions that he'd be wearing a Miami jersey next season.

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 01:12:32 pm »

He won't fall out of the Top 10. In 8 weeks this will all be forgotten
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2017, 03:55:47 pm »

If he had gotten into a heated argument with coaches or other players, then I'd be 100% in agreement with ya. However, this argument was with the medical staff, which leads me to believe that they told him he couldn't participate, due to some small injury. The fact that he got upset about it could make personnel folks think "Hey, here's a guy who wants to play through the pain..."

I really can't see any way he drops to #22 though, despite my early-early predictions that he'd be wearing a Miami jersey next season.

I was originally thinking the same thing but it turns out that wasn't it. He kept trying to cut line on people and then when confronted by medical staff played the "do you know who I am?" card. He felt like he was above everyone else and expected VIP treatment. My understanding is he made quite the scene and never shut up even being escorted out.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2017, 04:00:35 pm »

I'll still take Foster in a Dolphins uniform next season.  I'm not sure why top prospects end up going to the NFL combine, their draft stock can only go down.  Not to mention most schedule their personal NFL day anyways.  The combine usually only serves to move average guys higher up the charts.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 05:07:55 pm »

  I'm not sure why top prospects end up going to the NFL combine, their draft stock can only go down. 

That is 100% false. And if you don't go it looks like you are hiding something and you come off as a prima-donna and a wimp
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2017, 07:22:48 pm »

That is 100% false. And if you don't go it looks like you are hiding something and you come off as a prima-donna and a wimp

Not necessarily.   Schools have pro days
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2017, 07:48:37 pm »

Not necessarily.   Schools have pro days

Thanks for making my point. So even a bad combine could be made up at a pro day if you shine there.

I will ask, what player has had a huge drop in their draft stock over a bad combine? Nobody can name one because it's just a silly myth
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2017, 11:07:06 am »

Players are drafted based on a variety of factors.  Film being the most important, a bad combine isn't going to hurt someone, but not showing up, will raise flags as a prima donna. 

Film is king but the combine helps explain the film.  Break the 40 record but are a cornerback that is often beat by WR with slower 40 times indicates you have great athletism but poor technique.  A wide receiver with a slow 40 time but was always open indicates great technique and an ability to compensate for the speed. 

Nobody's draft spot is based on one data point.  Not going to the combine won't cause a top talent to go undrafted but, not going will lower the assessment of the player particularly if there are other red flags that he is me first and not a team player.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2017, 04:13:38 pm »

He won't fall out of the Top 10. In 8 weeks this will all be forgotten

Well I read a draft preview yesterday that had him going two picks after the Dolphins pick. (I think it was YardBarker, sorry can't remember for sure).  Of course this particular draft had the Dolphins taking a TE, which they would be crazy to do with their first pick.  But still, no where near the top 10 for Foster.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2017, 04:37:44 pm »

Well I read a draft preview yesterday that had him going two picks after the Dolphins pick. (I think it was YardBarker, sorry can't remember for sure).  Of course this particular draft had the Dolphins taking a TE, which they would be crazy to do with their first pick.  But still, no where near the top 10 for Foster.

People but way too much relevance in these mock drafts.  It is just the opinion of someone who owns a website.  There are 32 people whose opinion matters and the don't publish mock drafts. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2017, 05:27:22 pm »

I haven't seen a "mock draft" by someone reputable that has him falling past 15. And even that is a stretch really
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