Star Wars: The Last Jedi

[Downunder Dolphan]

That ending was 1000x better than the actual movie ending.

Agreed. Kinda sad, isn't it?

[CF DolFan]

I'm hopeful that JJ Abrams will be able to get the story back on track for episode 9.

[Downunder Dolphan]

I'm hopeful that JJ Abrams will be able to get the story back on track for episode 9.

Don't think he can. I am still not sure if Rian Johnson basically trolled JJ Abrams (and the rest of us) by trashing all of the potential plot themes established in The Force Awakens, or he was secretly in collusion and ploughed the field/took the hit for a whole new Disney/Marvel comic landscape to be created that the old faithful (like me) will absolutely hate. Like the casino planet (and/or horrifyingly, the prequels). You all secretly know it's coming, so either brace for it, or run away now while you can...

By the end of The Last Jedi I thought that's it for me, they've killed (or put into a deep coma) the last of what was good about Star Wars. Luke, Han & Leia are gone, Snoke had some potential but was taken out, the only interesting character left is Kylo Ren. Rey is boring, Finn & Poe are (very ordinary) comedy relief. The rest is fan service or rubbish. That's it. I was about ready to puke when I saw the kid at the end use the force to will the broom in his hand and show the "resistance ring" on his finger. It's so childish and cartoonish: now anyone can become a Jedi with no education or training whatsoever, that's just brilliant (sarcasm).

Oh, and the trailer of the new Han Solo move looks totally shithouse too...  needless to say, I am not even going to bother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW0B0HsvVs

[Dave Gray]

I feel like I'm in crazy town.  Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie released in 30 years.  It does so much to grow the franchise.

[CF DolFan]

I feel like I'm in crazy town.  Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie released in 30 years.  It does so much to grow the franchise.

A lot of people didn't see it that way. It isn't like you are just now hearing this. 

[Spider-Dan]

I feel like I'm in crazy town.  Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie released in 30 years.  It does so much to grow the franchise.

First of all, soft bigotry of low expectations?  "The best Star Wars movie in 30 years" is just saying that you think it's better than III and VII (because being better than I and II is not an accomplishment).

But more to the point: I can see how you don't think this movie is vile poison, but actually thinking it's GOOD is... puzzling.  It's basically the epitome of what I expected from Star Wars presented by Disney: taking nearly 40 years of lore and dumping it in the trash, but in a more active fashion than the passive "This stuff is no longer canon" statements made at the buyout.  It's not just that this movie doesn't make sense, it's that this movie tells me that everything else in Star Wars never made sense to begin with.

If someone told me 10 years ago that Disney would buy Star Wars and start making their own sequels, The Last Jedi is PRECISELY what I would predict.

[CF DolFan]

^^^^ Wow Spider. I don't think I've ever agreed with you more than I do now. That's a great perspective.

[Fau Teixeira]

i thought objectively the last jedi is better than every star wars except for 4 and 5.
new hope is better because it was ground breaking and innovative. empire because i think empire was hands down the best star wars movie. it was full of the bad guys win sometimes so fuck you  .. and i appreciate that

[Tenshot13]

I'll just leave this here...

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_last_jedi/

[Dave Gray]

I get that people didn't like the movie -- I just find it off, because it's such a breath of fresh air.

And Spider, I include Rogue One in there, as well.

Last Jedi, IMO, is better than 6, 1, 2, 3, 7, R1 ....and I love Star Wars and liked, if not loved 4 of those 6 mentioned.

[Spider-Dan]

I'm just not sure why anyone would say that VIII is a "great movie" but also believe that II is a terrible one.  The casino planet could have been straight out of I or II, for how ridiculous it was.  It was a prequel-quality segment of the movie, from the little kids to the pod races man-camel escape to the cringe-worthy dialogue and tortured, aimless plot thread.

[DZA]

huge fan of SW here, I do like the direction the franchise is going. done are the days of sith and jedi. But a new entity all together. Rule of two no more, lost jedi order.  It gives a chance to open up the story. Although the SW expanded universe opened up a lot but it way all over the place. Personally for me, I got tired of it. Who know what could happen with Kylo Ren being the front man of the first order and the new rebellion?

[DaLittle B]

So...This is now available to stream on Netflix....And I wanted to just be distracted for while.I'm sorry if some people get offended here...

Oh...This was horrible garbage...It felt like it was written by a bad screen writer from late 70's early 80's low budget action films.

+ I liked it tried to harken back to the originals form the 70's and 80's with the opening,vehicles,and other scenes felt vaguely familiar to those movies.

---The problem was it took *Dave's Harry potter movie theory,and mixed it with ^old low budget bad action movie,times 100 to anything bad happening to the good main characters.If this came out in the the late 70's early 80's re watching it now,I'd chuckle,but this came out in 2017 .

I get it,fantasy,space,suspension of disbelief..I'm almost 43,not 8...I don't like cartoons,I really don't enjoy movies/T.V shows where you know the nothing bad is really going to happen to any of the good guys.It's hard to care about characters,if they are always invincible to everything.You never worry Wylie Coyote is is going to hurt/catch the road runner.

*Dave's Harry potter theory used to be - Harry (and his friends) are in trouble/in a situation..They need away to get past a guard...Poof there is a cloak of invisibility. They need a broom,and poof one is sent to harry by a mystery person....

^Old low budget bad action movies -20 bad guys spray the good guy's with 50 bullets each,and never come anywhere close to hitting the good guy.The good guy shoots all the bad guy's with 1 shot with a hand gun,never misses,never reloads,and never runs out of ammo.

[Dave Gray]

I watched it again over the weekend.  I love it more and more every time.  It's so wonderfully crafted, as a story.  Best looking and directed of all the Star Wars movies, tightly knit story -- there are a few humor moments that don't land for me, but overall, I think it's masterful.

[Tenshot13]

I watched it again over the weekend.  I love it more and more every time.  It's so wonderfully crafted, as a story.  Best looking and directed of all the Star Wars movies, tightly knit story -- there are a few humor moments that don't land for me, but overall, I think it's masterful.

I find it funny how everyone I talk to, including myself, find this movie to be the hottest of garbage, but you define it as masterful.  Not ragging your opinion, just funny regarding the polarization.