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Baba Booey
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« on: January 04, 2018, 09:07:14 pm »
8am tomorrow morning a big article on the Patriots coming out. How Kraft/Belichick/Brady don't get along and this may be their last year together. Brady went to Kraft and forced the JimmyG trade to SF as he wanted him out of town. Belichick didn't. Also Brady may have forced the Brisett trade to Indy as well to get him out of town. Apparently the 3 main parties fight over who gets credit behind the scenes for the franchises success. Nobody likes each other any more. Bits and pieces are leaking out should be a good read tomorrow morning
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 09:45:32 pm »
Patriots are a disfunctional team mired in internal strife cause such paralysis that the team lost three games this year. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2018, 05:33:57 am »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 04, 2018, 09:45:32 pm
Patriots are a disfunctional team mired in internal strife cause such paralysis that the team lost three games this year. 

i think the point is this has been growing over time and its at the tipping point and the breakup is on the verge of happening
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2018, 08:38:46 am »
Excellent article...thanks.

If anyone is interested, there is a graphic in the article below about the difference in the 49ers offense after Jimmy G took over at QB. I've seen a lot of teams improve by adding a key player, but the difference between the numbers in this case are pretty ridiculous.

http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/29986/by-the-numbers-jimmy-garoppolo-made-49ers-better-at-everything
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2018, 09:05:11 am »
Quote from: Sunstroke on January 05, 2018, 08:38:46 am
Excellent article...thanks.

If anyone is interested, there is a graphic in the article below about the difference in the 49ers offense after Jimmy G took over at QB. I've seen a lot of teams improve by adding a key player, but the difference between the numbers in this case are pretty ridiculous.

http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/29986/by-the-numbers-jimmy-garoppolo-made-49ers-better-at-everything


Amazing the impact he has had on defense too.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 09:50:05 am »
If Belichick is the mastermind and Brady excels due to the system than what happens when everyone leaves?

2 coordinators could be gone and Belichick himself. Is Brady that great to exist without those guys? Without the system? And who takes over that division? Do the Bills come back and run the division like they did in the 90s?
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 09:53:09 am »

Aside from a Super Bowl win for my 49ers, or maybe learning that Jerry Jones is a transvestite, nothing would make me happier than watching Belichick retire after the season.

Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 05, 2018, 09:05:11 am
Amazing the impact he has had on defense too.

Obviously, any time you improve your offense and keep it on the field longer, it will have a positive effect on the defense.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 11:30:08 am »
Quote from: VidKid on January 05, 2018, 09:50:05 am
If Belichick is the mastermind and Brady excels due to the system than what happens when everyone leaves?

2 coordinators could be gone and Belichick himself. Is Brady that great to exist without those guys? Without the system? And who takes over that division? Do the Bills come back and run the division like they did in the 90s?

If Belichick leaves I would expect Josh McD will likely take over as HC.  Brady is going to decline not because of coaching changes but because he is getting old.

I do full expect in the next few years NE will cease dominating the AFCE, kinda surprised how long it has lasted. 

That being said, the article contains much bullshit, obviously written with a goal of maximizing clicks than accuracy, to wit the claim that Belichick ripping Brady in a meeting for mistakes is somehow new.  The same news source had a lengthy piece in which Randy Moss described Brady getting torn apart for mistakes and how nobody is above criticism, including that context doesn't fit the narrative of the story so they claim it is new.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 11:37:01 am »
Personally I think this story is bogus. The three of them didn't get where they are being as stupid as this makes them look.
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 12:56:30 pm »
Quote from: CF DolFan on January 05, 2018, 11:37:01 am
Personally I think this story is bogus. The three of them didn't get where they are being as stupid as this makes them look.

There's where our roads branch off, because I don't see them being made to look stupid...just human.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 02:16:31 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on January 05, 2018, 12:56:30 pm
There's where our roads branch off, because I don't see them being made to look stupid...just human.


Kraft forcing Belichick to trade Garoppolo. Brady gets overjoyed at practice once he heard the news and gave Kraft a hug to say thanks for supporting him? Seems pretty stupid to me considering all they have accomplished under Belichick. If it is true then is is even dumber. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 02:28:26 pm »
Quote from: CF DolFan on January 05, 2018, 02:16:31 pm
Kraft forcing Belichick to trade Garoppolo. Brady gets overjoyed at practice once he heard the news and gave Kraft a hug to say thanks for supporting him? Seems pretty stupid to me considering all they have accomplished under Belichick. If it is true then is is even dumber. 

I think it is just me being a little more cynical about human behavior than you are.

Frankly, the whole "hugged him at practice after hearing the news" bit sounds like made-up bushwah to me...
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 05:30:33 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on January 05, 2018, 02:28:26 pm
I think it is just me being a little more cynical about human behavior than you are.

Frankly, the whole "hugged him at practice after hearing the news" bit sounds like made-up bushwah to me...

Maybe I'm giving the trio too much credit but most of it sounds made up to me.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 05:59:20 pm »
Reports now out that Belichick is helping prepare McDaniels and Patrica with their job interviews. Something Belichick has never done before with assistants of his (help them prepare for job interviews as head coaches.)

And reports out the Giants and Belichick are making eyes at each other and Belichick may want to go back to New York to end his career.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2018, 12:46:02 pm »
Quote from: Baba Booey on January 05, 2018, 05:59:20 pm
Reports now out that Belichick is helping prepare McDaniels and Patrica with their job interviews. Something Belichick has never done before with assistants of his (help them prepare for job interviews as head coaches.)

And reports out the Giants and Belichick are making eyes at each other and Belichick may want to go back to New York to end his career.

Considering he helped Parcells win the Giants two Super Bowls, that's not surprising.
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