New normal?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The original intent of the second amendment was NOT to give individuals the right to arm themselves.  The intent was to insure the individual states were allowed to regulate their own individual state militias. 

Keep in mind under the articles of confederation, while the federal government had the power on paper to raise a national army it was at the mercy of the states for its military power.  (Kinda like the UN today, there are no organic UN forces all of them are troops borrowed from some country)

The Constitution put the Federal government in charge of the military. The second amendment was put in place to give the states the right to keep their well regulated militas.  In essence the original intent of the 2nd amendment was to prohibit the Federal Government from disarming the Florida National Guard and Florida State Police. 

[Phishfan]

I find it humorous to argue the original intent from either side. None of us were there. None of us know original intent, we just have modern day, personal interpretation of what we think the intent was.

[pondwater]

I find it humorous to argue the original intent from either side. None of us were there. None of us know original intent, we just have modern day, personal interpretation of what we think the intent was.

And we also have the Supreme Court interpretation, which is the only one that matters.

[Spider-Dan]

Again, the Supreme Court appears to be completely OK with the existence of the National Firearms Act, which is definitely an infringement on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

[pondwater]

Again, the Supreme Court appears to be completely OK with the existence of the National Firearms Act, which is definitely an infringement on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

We're not talking about the National Firearms Act, stop changing the subject. We were talking about your silly interpretation of "well-regulated militia". That issue seems to have been settled with several court rulings, ending with the Supreme Court. I could be wrong, but I doubt that they'll visit that issue again any time soon. Haha, and you bring up an 85 year old law that no one is even talking about and has nothing to do with anything. You drunk or something?

[CF DolFan]

There was a bombing at a restaurant in Toronto yesterday where the two perps got away. At about the same time there was an active shooter at a restaurant in Oklahoma where the shooter was killed by a good guy with a gun.   

[Cathal]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd shots fired at an Indiana middle school today. I'm sure within a week from today we can add another school.

[Sunstroke]

There was a bombing at a restaurant in Toronto yesterday where the two perps got away. At about the same time there was an active shooter at a restaurant in Oklahoma where the shooter was killed by a good guy with a gun.   

I can show you a couple of stories about humans biting dogs, but it certainly isn't the norm...

[CF DolFan]

If we can just get democrats to quit shooting people then everything would be fine. Maybe that's the ticket. We officially declare liberalism a mental disorder and keep guns out of the hands of democrats. Then the law abiding NRA members would not have to protect themselves so it's a win-win. 

Just laugh ... you that's funny!!

Regardless of anything else in this world that we do .... unless you limit access points and tighten security with detectors then this kind of thing is going to keep happening to our schools. Every low life who thinks his life is worthless and over is going to keep copy catting to become the latest legend. They will use guns, knives, bombs or whatever comes up next.  It took moments to secure our airports and yet years later only a minimal amount of schools are protected.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Glg15V1q51Y&feature=youtu.be


pretty powerful

[pondwater]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Glg15V1q51Y&feature=youtu.be


pretty powerful

Pretty silly.

[CF DolFan]

That's so stupid. I guess we need ... sorry your baby got raped cards as well. Seriously ... the amount of reaching by some people to only appeal to their extreme base is mind boggling.

[Tenshot13]

I guess we have different definitions of powerful.

[Dolphster]

That's so stupid. I guess we need ... sorry your baby got raped cards as well. Seriously ... the amount of reaching by some people to only appeal to their extreme base is mind boggling.

They can put them next to the "The Baby Jesus Was A Refugee Too" cards.  As a society, we embrace hysterical dramatics.  From "Obama wants to take your guns" to "Trump hates immigrants".   The truth has become pretty irrelevant these days.  But we just can't get enough sensationalism and exaggeration.

[Fau Teixeira]

They can put them next to the "The Baby Jesus Was A Refugee Too" cards.  As a society, we embrace hysterical dramatics.  From "Obama wants to take your guns" to "Trump hates immigrants".   The truth has become pretty irrelevant these days.  But we just can't get enough sensationalism and exaggeration.

just to nitpick .. "obama wants to take your guns" isn't equivalent to "trump hates immigrants" .. one of those is hysterical conjecture .. the other one is an over generalization.. trump doesn't hate immigrants .. just the brown ones.

a more apt comparison would be "trump likes golden showers from russian hookers" ..
then again .. that one may be true too .. hmm

ok ok .. how about "trump is a russian stooge and takes marching orders from putin" ..
crap .. this is hard..

how about "trump wants to group immigrant kids into concentration camps and wants to raise them as ninja assassins.."
ok that one works .. it's only half true.