Robert Kraft

[Phishfan]

And the illegal drug trade funds terrorist organizations.  By the logic of some here, smoking a joint is the same thing as masterminding 9/11. 

Kraft is charged with a misdemeanor with a maximum of 60 days. He was a john not a pimp.

Not really. Marijuana is not the same industry as other drugs anymore. That stuff is grown and produced locally and doesn't need smuggling.

[Downunder Dolphan]

Do you seriously believe that?   If the judge is a Dolphins fan, he'll throw the book at Kraft. 

I sure hope justice does not work like that in the USA, being a Dolphins fan should have absolutely nothing to do with it.

If a Judge is so biased because of such a relatively minor thing such as sporting allegiances, then the chance of a fair trial is fucked - and by extension the whole judicial system is then also fucked. That doesn't say much for the concept of genuine freedom in your country if such a situation can possibly exist...

[Dolphster]

I sure hope justice does not work like that in the USA, being a Dolphins fan should have absolutely nothing to do with it.

OJ was found Not Guilty.  Anything can happen in the USA.   

[Dave Gray]

^ Yeah, but not because Judge Ito was a Bills fan.

[BuccaneerBrad]

^ Yeah, but not because Judge Ito was a Bills fan.

OJ was found Not Guilty.  Anything can happen in the USA.   

Surprisingly, Judge Ito went to UCLA which is a rival of OJ's USC.   Judges don't find people guilty.  Juries do.   Judges simply pass sentences

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/19/robert-kraft-receives-conditional-offer-to-drop-florida-charges/

Never heard of an offer to drop in exchange for admitting guilt.  Is that a Florida thing?

[BuccaneerBrad]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/19/robert-kraft-receives-conditional-offer-to-drop-florida-charges/

Never heard of an offer to drop in exchange for admitting guilt.  Is that a Florida thing?

Nope.   And I have a major problem with that in any criminal situation

[CF DolFan]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/19/robert-kraft-receives-conditional-offer-to-drop-florida-charges/

Never heard of an offer to drop in exchange for admitting guilt.  Is that a Florida thing?

It's more than that. It's more of an arbitration ... which is used in Florida. A relative just did something like this and had all charges dropped.  The criminal charges will go away if Kraft makes that admission, if he completes an education course about prostitution, if he performs 100 hours of community service, if he’s screened for STDs, and if he pays some of the court costs.  They weren't ever really going after the john's.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Seems like a good way to handle it for the Johns.....they get punished but on a job application or if trying to adopt a child they can answer, “no” to “have you ever been convicted of a sex crime”. 

[CF DolFan]

Seems like a good way to handle it for the Johns.....they get punished but on a job application or if trying to adopt a child they can answer, “no” to “have you ever been convicted of a sex crime”. 

They are saying Kraft won't accept the deal. I can't imagine he wants the video going public if it is as damaging as the police have reported. Outside of the 100 hours of community service ... I don't see what there is to complain about.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

They are saying Kraft won't accept the deal. I can't imagine he wants the video going public if it is as damaging as the police have reported. Outside of the 100 hours of community service ... I don't see what there is to complain about.

Rarely does someone take the first offer.   That doesn’t mean they won’t eventually settle.  He wants a seal on the evidence.  If I am in his shoes.....counter offfer - drop charges, no admission of guilt, video sealed, $100,000 donation to a charity that aids victims of human trafficking.....and then I negotiate the donation upwards. And can anyone really say that Kraft doing 100 hours of community service would benefit the victims more than a 6 or 7 figure check to a charity.   

[stinkfish]

Are you a Defense Atty?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Are you a Defense Atty?

no.

I am just saying what I would do in his shoes.  The guy is already pretty generous to charities, including to organizations that fight human trafficking.  I am confident he thought he was exchanging cash with someone who was of her own free will providing the handjob.

So in his shoes that is what I would offer.  I would then donate considerably more than than the formal agreement and continue to provide significant financial support to those organizations for the rest of my life and in my will, to restore the image as a humanitarian.

[CF DolFan]

I agree with you Hoodie but I could see where someone would think that's essentially letting him off.  If many of us had to pay a fine it would be worse than community service because we don't have a lot of extra money. He's in almost the exact opposite position.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I agree with you Hoodie but I could see where someone would think that's essentially letting him off.  If many of us had to pay a fine it would be worse than community service because we don't have a lot of extra money. He's in almost the exact opposite position.

Last year, 2 kids I know got busted for public urination, both got the same offer - $250 fine or 10 hours community service.  The one with a full time job as an accountant paid the fine, the one that works part time at McD did community service. 

There are elements that are going to be unsatisfied with anything short of the death penalty.  Agreeing to pay $250k to a charity for victims of human trafficking and then turning around and writing a check for a million will get him into the good graces with *most*.